Keyblade Theory

[tazmanianchocobo]

It's proven to be more than that... you know... since there are Keychain-less Keyblades. D:

As I said before the chainless keyblades could just mean that we're not going to change keyblades in BBS. There is no reason for them to animate a keychain onto the keyblades unless they are going to change keyblades.

 

[Smile]

As I said before the chainless keyblades could just mean that we're not going to change keyblades in BBS. There is no reason for them to animate a keychain onto the keyblades unless they are going to change keyblades.

Unless you're saying the Keychain was what made the SE into the WtD, then explain why they bothered slapping one on the WtD then - seeing how that one wasn't exactly replaced through the game.

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

Unless you're saying the Keychain was what made the SE into the WtD, then explain why they bothered slapping one on the WtD then - seeing how that one wasn't exactly replaced through the game.

Well there is a number of reasons why it has a keychain. They may have intended for Sora to wield WttD when initially making KH2, but latter changed. It may be that when designing a new keyblade for the games that they build off a blank keyblade structure and add coloring from there and edit the structure. The blank design probably has a keychain there they would edit the keychain that was already on the structure design. The reason why they wouldn't use the same keyblade same blank structure design for Terra's and Ven's is because their keyblades are the only two like them in the series and so as to not cause fanboys freakout over Terra's and Ven's keyblades not having a keychains they naturally got rid of Aqua's.

 

[Smile]

Ok, next question. How come DS and MX do have Keychains?
And Aqua's Keyblade in the FM+ scene didn't have a Keychain, which makes me believe they could've just as easily slapped a "Keychain-less base" for Mickey and Riku in KH2. However - they didn't.

 

[valorxx]

Ok, next question. How come DS and MX do have Keychains?

i kinda believe that MX's keychain is kinda... the key to kingdom hearts. i think that because in the secret trailer (not so secret anymore..) his keyblade changed into a orb then went into the sky and changed to kingdom hearts. i think it has to do with his keychain (i dunno thats what i think)

 

[Audo]

Ok, next question. How come DS and MX do have Keychains?
And Aqua's Keyblade in the FM+ scene didn't have a Keychain, which makes me believe they could've just as easily slapped a "Keychain-less base" for Mickey and Riku in KH2. However - they didn't.

Oh oh oh, don't forget Mickey's Star Seeker :3

 

[Smile]

Oh oh oh, don't forget Mickey's Star Seeker :3

Seeing how he later on got the IKK, one could say it was to "change Keychains" according to his claim, so I don't use it as an example whether Mickey's keyblade has a Keychain or not.

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

Ok, next question. How come DS and MX do have Keychains?
And Aqua's Keyblade in the FM+ scene didn't have a Keychain, which makes me believe they could've just as easily slapped a "Keychain-less base" for Mickey and Riku in KH2. However - they didn't.

Well at the time they made the BBS video they probably used the same blank keyblade design for MX and DS keyblades for that video. However if you look at the leaked trailer you'll see that the DS's keychain is no longer on his keyblade.

If you don't believe me take a look:
YouTube - Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep TGS 2007 Trailer in ENGLISH

As for Aqua's keyblade from FM+ they wouldn't use that particular blank keyblade design it would be coded to do particular things they on other hand would use just a simple structure frame and made it look like Aqua's keyblade.

 

[Smile]

Well at the time they made the BBS video they probably used the same blank keyblade design for MX and DS keyblades for that video.

Then why not for TAV? TAV show they had a base without a Keychain in the FM+ SE. Why not use that?
Answer - because Keychains matter, durrr.

However if you look at the leaked trailer you'll see that the DS's keychain is no longer on his keyblade.

That can be for he is an apprentice, like TAV. Also, it might be a Keyblade like what Xehanort's Heartless used from the PoH's Hearts. Until we'll see MX's Keyblade, we won't know for sure.

 

[BDQ]

keychains for keyblades dont do much for keyblades exept change their form in my opinion

 

[Audo]

Seeing how he later on got the IKK, one could say it was to "change Keychains" according to his claim, so I don't use it as an example whether Mickey's keyblade has a Keychain or not.

Mickey actually had two Keyblades.
The StarSeeker, and the IKK.
Mickey is a Keyblade hog
Oh, just to clarify for everyone, when I say he had two Keyblades, I am not talking about Keychains. :3

Then why not for TAV? TAV show they had a base without a Keychain in the FM+ SE. Why not use that?
Answer - because Keychains matter, durrr.



That can be for he is an apprentice, like TAV. Also, it might be a Keyblade like what Xehanort's Heartless used from the PoH's Hearts. Until we'll see MX's Keyblade, we won't know for sure.

His keychain actually IS there.
It's just the bad quality of the vid makes it hard to see, but there was a big thread on it not too long ago where it was proven to be there.

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

Then why not for TAV? TAV show they had a base without a Keychain in the FM+ SE. Why not use that?
Answer - because Keychains matter, durrr.



That can be for he is an apprentice, like TAV. Also, it might be a Keyblade like what Xehanort's Heartless used from the PoH's Hearts. Until we'll see MX's Keyblade, we won't know for sure.

Until we play the game we wont know for sure if keychains matter either. They probably don't matter. If they do matter then why do so many keyblades have the same keychain? Example: Sleeping Lion and Lionheart, Three Wishes and Wishing Lamp, and Hero's Crest and Olympia. Heck the two Ultima Weapons might share a name, but they don't look alike and have two different keychains.

 

[Audo]

They do matter. The fact that there are Keyblades without them proves they matter in some way. BLEH how many times must it be said before people accept it? D:

 

[Smile]

Until we play the game we wont know for sure if keychains matter either. They probably don't matter. If they do matter then why do so many keyblades have the same keychain? Example: Sleeping Lion and Lionheart, Three Wishes and Wishing Lamp, and Hero's Crest and Olympia.

Because they came from the same place? Thus the Keychains represents the same thing, there's no need to change them.
Leon to Sora has only one thing to symbolize him, the griever. Why should they make him a new "icon" in KH2?

They do matter. The fact that there are Keyblades without them proves they matter in some way. BLEH how many times must it be said before people accept it? D:

A lot, he's a persistent one.

 

[BDQ]

why would it matter if a keyblade has a chain or not it would still be a keyblade so a keyblade without a chian is just as important as a keyblade with one

 

[Smile]

why would it matter if a keyblade has a chain or not it would still be a keyblade so a keyblade without a chian is just as important as a keyblade with one

Seeing how having no Keychain is one of the things that make people speculate TAV's Keyblades are fake, much like the Heart Unlocker, I think it can mean a lot.

 

[BDQ]

Seeing how having no Keychain is one of the things that make people speculate TAV's Keyblades are fake, much like the Heart Unlocker, I think it can mean a lot.

ok think about this if you would to take the keychain of the kingdom key would it be fake then? no it would still be important and if you would to give a keychain to a keyblade that doesnt have one would that make it rea?l it doesnt matter if a keyblade has a chain or not there still keyblades

 

[tazmanianchocobo]

Because they came from the same place? Thus the Keychains represents the same thing, there's no need to change them.
Leon to Sora has only one thing to symbolize him, the griever. Why should they make him a new "icon" in KH2?



A lot, he's a persistent one.

First, that is not true in all cases. Example: Divine Rose and Rumbling Rose have two different keychains. Also as said before the two Ultima Weapons have two different keychains. These keychains come from the same place however they are different. So why create two different keychains for these keyblades. The reason I'm presistent is because I'm still waiting to see the evidence. The iron clad evidence that says that they matter.

 

[Smile]

ok think about this if you would to take the keychain of the kingdom key would it be fake then? no it would still be important and if you would to give a keychain to a keyblade that doesnt have one would that make it rea?l it doesnt matter if a keyblade has a chain or not there still keyblades

And you're basing this on what, exactly?

First, that is not true in all cases. Example: Divine Rose and Rumbling Rose have two different keychains.

One represented Belle, one represented Beast, hence the different Keychains.

Also as said before the two Ultima Weapons have two different keychains. These keychains come from the same place however they are different. So why create two different keychains for these keyblades.

That really depends on what you say the Ultima Weapon represents. I doesn't represent the Moogles, imo, and actually represents Sora himself - thus it makes perfect sense for it to change, because Sora himself changes.
We know nothing about the Ultima weapon, however, so we can't say this or there - only that it's possible.

The reason I'm presistent is because I'm still waiting to see the evidence. The iron clad evidence that says that they matter.

Well, we will have to wait for BBS for that, though I think there's a great amount of things supporting their importance. Whether or not to believe in it is up to you now.

 

[BDQ]

And you're basing this on what, exactly?

on common sense if you were to take the kingdom key keychain away what would be the difference if it had it on