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Samhain

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Is anyone disappointed with the way they did this story??

"Oh yeah, Xehanort SOMEHOW knew ALL of this was going to happen. he knew the X Blade with Ven/Vanitas will fail. he knew Terra would resist him. He knew he would "lose his memories". he knew he would meet a guy named ansem and betray him. he knew when he died he would be reborn (lol this is the same guy who didnt even know nobodies existed, wtf?!)

what was the stupid point of Xehanort taking over Terra's body? he should have put a "piece of his heart" inside of Terra like he did with everyone else to clone him into Xehanort instead of dealing with what he dealt with

anyway i am very disappointed with how they moved the story so far. Time travel and Voldemort 2.0 garbage. i am still going to play but i am just very disappointed with how Nomura destroyed the story with this game.
 

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Well many of the things you have said aren't actually claimed by Xehanort. I don't recall him saying he knew that the X Blade would fail, and it's probably pretty obvious that Terra would resist him. He never claims to know any of those things. What he knew is that his original Organization XIII would, for the most part, fail. So like any good villain, he made fail-safes to ensure he could plant his heart into his new Organization XIII. Even now there are still many unknowns about what even happened to Terra and his heart. But because Xehanort's new goal after BBS was to make thirteen darknesses to clash with seven lights, he attempted to take Terra to add to his ranks.
Honestly, when you piece it together correctly, it really does make sense. IMO it is a fresh and rather unexpected twist. You can't just look at it as "it's time travel so it must be garbage." You have to look at all the variables.
 

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I put his efforts in BBS as he put it himself, hastily. He wanted a quick work around which ended up failing. MX knew he would need to prepare for this, and so he did. This is exactly what he meant when he was talking to Terra in the end of the game.

At least, this is how I understood it. I only get more confused as I already am with the game thinking about it. He knew it because it already happened or something? I don't know.

I'll kind of agree that the whole time travel thing is a bit of a stretchy move to put in the game. However, I kind of see it as them trying to piece everything back full circle.
 

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Many of Xehanort's "failings" were useful in the end. He managed to eliminate four wielders, for a time. He created a few other fallback plans. Xehanort may have felt that changing everything wouldn't be worth the risk.
 

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In all honesty, there weren't many things to know. He was hasty in BBS. He needed a new "Vessel". It wasn't explained why until KH3D.He HAD to know about nobodies, he ventured to worlds all the time. He didn't really lose his memories. From what i read it was all a farce. He obviously knew Terra would resist him but what he didnt know was the Eraqus would tamper with Terra's heart. Logically, he would feign amnesia to gain the trust of the apprentices and manipulate their thoughts to end up "Serving" him.If anything, the time travel aspect of the game is very simple, compared to many time theories out there. He basically said that you can only go in one direction, forward or backwards. On the way forward, he picked up his incarnations before they perished in their respective times. Nothing confusing or stupid about it. Although that's your opinion.
 

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I wouldn't say that it was disappointing, but just horribly convenient yet inevitable. MX was planning for years to re-create the Keyblade War, he was sure to have some back up plans along the way. He said it himself: destiny is never left to chance.
 

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Well many of the things you have said aren't actually claimed by Xehanort. I don't recall him saying he knew that the X Blade would fail, and it's probably pretty obvious that Terra would resist him. He never claims to know any of those things. What he knew is that his original Organization XIII would, for the most part, fail. So like any good villain, he made fail-safes to ensure he could plant his heart into his new Organization XIII. Even now there are still many unknowns about what even happened to Terra and his heart. But because Xehanort's new goal after BBS was to make thirteen darknesses to clash with seven lights, he attempted to take Terra to add to his ranks.
Honestly, when you piece it together correctly, it really does make sense. IMO it is a fresh and rather unexpected twist. You can't just look at it as "it's time travel so it must be garbage." You have to look at all the variables.

Exactly, Xehanort on the contrary even admitted that he made errors in hs haste, the difference is only that he is crazy prepared and his errors actually don't do him any harm in the long run.
His ultimate goals got derailed three times, once by the BBS crew and twice by the efforts of Sora and his friends, yet Xehanort made just sure he will be able to try a fourth time by preparing some counter measures.
On top of this, he now also accounts for the errors he made those times and pays attention not to repeat them.

Not looking at all the variables in play seems to be exactly the problem of the OP, as when you piece everything together it really does make sense, heck, Nomura was alluding to the "true goal" of the Organisation even way back when the Director's Report to KH2 was released.
Connecting the dots is always a necessity in the KH series and even if we can't make full sense out of it right now that's only because the puzzle still isnt complete as Nomura left several pieces out to solve later.
There is also nothing "destroyed" about the story in my book since many things I already suspected from earlier reports and interviews are turning out to be true.

I wouldn't say that it was disappointing, but just horribly convenient yet inevitable. MX was planning for years to re-create the Keyblade War, he was sure to have some back up plans along the way. He said it himself: destiny is never left to chance.

Xehanort is a schemer, Yen Sid acknowledged that in Re: Coded and he already said to Terra in Blank Points that he has "many roads" left open so having his plans laid out in several steps ahead isn't that surprising.
Although I disagree with that destiny/fate (what's the difference between those anyways?) is predetermined babbling as people have proven again and again that fate can be changed with enough effort.

That "fate"-speech of MX about the BBS-crew towards Mickey was just MX playing his way out of Mickey's accusations that it was he and his stupid plans that screwed over Terra, Aqua and Ventus. Xehanort isn't a god (although he wants to be one) who decides what is fated and what not, since it are solely his schemes which screw over so many hearts and people and not some ominous "destiny" or fate.

Or, to make it short. Xehanort just shows Mickey how many fucks he gives about the horrible things that befell TAV: None at all.
He's completely out of empathy and remorse for anything.
 
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