TAV's Master and the Org Theory

[waterking-Demyx]

I've pointed out that he could easily be going to Yen Sid for some sagely advice. That hasn't happened to Sora, the keyblade leaving on its own for no reason, so obviously something is wrong. And people have the misconception that if he's a master, he must know everything.

well, if he's a master, he should be able to keep his keyblade from phasing in and out of existence whenever it wants :lol:

just think, During a battle: Mickey says "I've got you now, Master Xehanort! Holy frickin' crap what just happened to my keyblade? This is very bad!!!!"

or, when he gives Goofy a hug after Goofy gets hit in the head with a rock: " You had me so worried! I thought you were dead! What the heck? Now you are, I guess."

 

[gelandporn]

well, if he's a master, he should be able to keep his keyblade from phasing in and out of existence whenever it wants

Seriously, people overestimate a Keyblade Master as bad as they overestimate Master Xehanort.We have these high and mighty preconceived images of them, as if they must be flawless.

Who says that a problem like that can't happen to a Keyblade Master? It's happening to Mickey, and being a Master doesn't make much of a difference if something is occurring beyond your scope. For instance, and I by no means support this, it's just an example, let's say Master Xehanort is gradually trying to take the Keyblade away from Mickey because he can wield any keyblade he wishes or he too was chosen to wield it, like Sora and Riku with KK. Any master would have a problem if the other master is more powerful or at least equally matched.

 

[Anima Relic]

Mickey is not TAV's master, TAV is not apprentices to Mickey, and besides wasn't it confrimed that TAV's master is unknown? I mean we KNOW Mickey so ....yeah.

 

[gelandporn]

Mickey is not TAV's master, TAV is not apprentices to Mickey, and besides wasn't it confrimed that TAV's master is unknown? I mean we KNOW Mickey so ....yeah.

Stop being irrationally stubborn. NOTHING was confirmed about the master. Nomura refused to say if he was from the current series. Sound strange? It should, because he has a habit of identifying new characters immediately. What's more, Mickey is not a "King" during that time period. So... he's not a King, he has a Keyblade, he helps Terra Aqua and Ven...

People insist that it must not be Mickey simply because they don't want him to be.

 

[Anima Relic]

Stop being irrationally stubborn. NOTHING was confirmed about the master. Nomura refused to say if he was from the current series. Sound strange? It should, because he has a habit of identifying new characters immediately. What's more, Mickey is not a "King" during that time period. So... he's not a King, he has a Keyblade, he helps Terra Aqua and Ven...

People insist that it must not be Mickey simply because they don't want him to be.

1. Actually they've changed Aqua into being the Mystery Girl. So I think that Nomura haven't really "identified" her yet.

2.It never was confirmed that Mickey was a keyblade master in the first place.

3. Nomura said Mickey MAY not be King, and that status wouldn't have anything to do with much anyways.

4.It's obvious he helps TAV, because he wants to save everyone like he normally does :glare:

5. Stop being stubborn about Mickey being TAV's Master :glare:

6. People insist Mickey isn't the Master for various reasons, such as this, you'd think if Mickey was TAV's master he'd mention them at least once. Also, don't give me that "you never know" crap either.

 

[*~NeoAdamus~*]

I doubt Mickey was ever a master keyblader. I mean he was in training with Yen Sid at the time keybladers were fighting. I think the only means of its existence was to seal away darkness, if not then what was the purpose of the keyblade

 

[Cloudless Sky]

Ehh..Stil lno. more like Heartless.No doubt about it.

I agree with Golden knight... more like a hearless for me =D

 

[Yannis]

BUT I was thinking that maybe it was TAV's Master that has become the Xehanort we know.

In this part the theory failed. This your theory crushes all other theories and it makes no sense when you think about it. Why he has name Xehanort? Why his heartless has MX´s clothing? Why he looks like Terra?

FAILED!

And Terra and Ven arent wearing nobody-symbols.

 

[DarkSoldier85]

As for the Heartless insignia's if MX created the New enemies in BBS, then when Xehanort created artificial heartless, he could have remembered the heart from the New enemies symbol and used that to create the heartless symbol.

The new symbol for the enemies doesn't have a heart anywhere on it.

It's possible that the symbol that TAV had was a symbol for the keyblade wielders.

 

[Anima Relic]

In this part the theory failed. This your theory crushes all other theories and it makes no sense when you think about it. Why he has name Xehanort? Why his heartless has MX´s clothing? Why he looks like Terra?

FAILED!

And Terra and Ven arent wearing nobody-symbols.

1. I was suggesting that TAV's master could have stole MX's name "Xehanort" just like Xehanort's heartless stole ATW's name "Ansem"

2. Also, you can't say the theory fails if you haven't even seen TAV's master yet :glare:

3. Sure, they may not be wearing nobody symbols, but the symbols from their clothes could have been what the heartless and nobody symbols were based off of.

4. Anything else you'd like to add :glare:?

 

[gelandporn]

1. Actually they've changed Aqua into being the Mystery Girl. So I think that Nomura haven't really "identified" her yet.

Congratulations for pointing a relatively irrelevant detail due to, I'm guessing, frustration. He identified her as Aqua in an interview, and now he identifies her as an unknown. Does that mean we have to start calling her "Mystery girl"? No. Aqua was an already established name, and, until proven otherwise, we can still use it. If it so happens that it is NOT her name, it still doesn't matter, as it serves just about the same purpose as calling MX's apprentice DS.

2.It never was confirmed that Mickey was a keyblade master in the first place.

And I never said that. Way to twist around words.

3. Nomura said Mickey MAY not be King, and that status wouldn't have anything to do with much anyways.

He said he CAN'T SAY if Mickey is a "King" at that point in time. You can't honestly be so desperate as to refute this evidence. If he says that in the interview, he's implying it. He wouldn't say that for people to speculate on and then say "Well I partially lied". For instance, he said he "gets the feeling that Xemnas is a special Nobody." You're saying that it doesn't matter due to his wording?

4.It's obvious he helps TAV, because he wants to save everyone like he normally does :glare:

... Then why didn't he help all the Disney characters that Sora went around saving? You're using your own form of logic that is inapplicable.

5. Stop being stubborn about Mickey being TAV's Master :glare:

I'm not, you're being stubborn about not accepting the possibility. I said that I can bet he's the master, you threw it aside without actually thinking.

6. People insist Mickey isn't the Master for various reasons, such as this, you'd think if Mickey was TAV's master he'd mention them at least once. Also, don't give me that "you never know" crap either.

Congrats, you're a hypocrite. You're giving me the "you never know" crap in response 4 without any basis (You never know, it might just be that he wants to save them, because he's that kinda guy).

And this point fails. It oozes fail. Whether or not he is a master does not matter on that point. The fact of the matter is that we know Mickey somehow knew them, and that he was there. And yet he has not mentioned this to anyone. Saying that he's a master doesn't make a difference, either way, something's wrong.

 

[Anima Relic]

^That's what I agree on, that Mickey did know them, not that he was their Master :glare: Also, he didn't save the disney characters like Sora was, because he knew Sora, Donald, and Goofy could handle it duh.

 

[gelandporn]

^That's what I agree on, that Mickey did know them, not that he was their Master :glare: Also, he didn't save the disney characters like Sora was, because he knew Sora, Donald, and Goofy could handle it duh.

You're frankly acting dim. You're recycling your statements if you reread our conversation, because I think you're confused.

Thought Sora and co. could handle it? Hm. Sounds like "You never know" crap to me.

 

[Anima Relic]

Actually now you are the one acting dim o confused one, because they could and DID handle it :glare: Seems like "you don't know" crap to me :glare:

 

[gelandporn]

Actually now you are the one acting dim o confused one, because they could and DID handle it :glare: Seems like "you don't know" crap to me :glare:

And you know Mickey would know this would happen?

Wow.

And thanks for neglecting 98% of my post. I understand that it's hard to make a come back when you know you're wrong.

 

[Yannis]

2. Also, you can't say the theory fails if you haven't even seen TAV's master yet :glare:

TAV´s Master? Well, actually I have seen him, yeah.. He is Yen Sid for 100% chance.

 

[Athaydea]

TAV´s Master? Well, actually I have seen him, yeah.. He is Yen Sid for 100% chance.

if you would take the time to look at all the evidence .. you would see it points more towards mickey than it does him .. hes not 100% sure to be it at all..?

 

[Yannis]

if you would take the time to look at all the evidence .. you would see it points more towards mickey than it does him .. hes not 100% sure to be it at all..?

Mickey is an apprentice. It says in the trailer-description, that Yen Sid is teaching Mickey to become stronger Keyblade Warrior.

And Mickey has the apprentice-outfit.

I said 100% chance. It means that no space for Mickey.

 

[Athaydea]

Mickey is an apprentice. It says in the trailer-description, that Yen Sid is teaching Mickey to become stronger Keyblade Warrior.

And Mickey has the apprentice-outfit.

I said 100% chance. It means that no space for Mickey.

it hasnt been confirmed what was being taught to mickey by yen sid .. i vaugly remember MAGIC being what yen sid was mickeys teacher in .. and find that summery if your so sure .. ive never read that before ..

and was it confirmed that that was an apprentice outfit?? no!? ... that is not justification for mickey being an apprentice at all

and you can think that but you are a fool to do so .. im sure grace assassin can agree with me there

 

[Anima Relic]

^Hmm I never considered Yen Sid, and I'm remembering that book that Yen Sid made Sora and Co. read. It made no sense to me and I thought it didn't have anything to do with much. I'm still more inclined to think TAV's master is original. I agree that the outfit Mickey wears in BBS is an apprentice outfit only because it's almost if not the exact look Sora has in KH2.