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moogless26

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i got a Q. could it be that MX lost his heart, just like kairy did. she get a nobody, without losing her heart and being whole with a nobody, maybe is MX the same. that he not get a heartless, and so also no memory's. what is making the Xehanort we know, the apprentices of ATW. and Xehanort was doing research on hearts and artificial hearts. maybe he give him self a heart, and a fake heart can't get lost in darkness. that can to explain the Xehanort heartless, who had memory's of before and hold his human form.





I have transcended to an existence of only the heart. I should have come back as a Heartless, but there is no sign of such a transformation.

My body has surely perished. However, I am different from the other Heartless, keeping the memories of before, and I have not taken on the form of a Heartless. It is clear that there are still many things to be studied.

ansem report 12 (Final mix)
writing by Xehanort who had taken ansem's name.
 

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Xigbar often eavesdropped on the conversations, and told Zexion that he heard another voice once. He also told Zexion he suspected that there was a link between the Room of Sleep and Castle Oblivion.

i read this somewhere and i think the conection is between the room of sleep and castle oblivion, that in the room of sleep you get your memory's back, and in castle oblivion you lost them. that's why Xemnas talk to aqau's armor and keyblade as a friend.


and a another theory. in one of the ansem reports it said's that only 2 people have turned back from a heartless to a normal person. and that were sora and Xehanort. maybe he has 2 nobody's but i don't know of this is possible




sorry for my bad english, i'm dutch.
 
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Xigbar often eavesdropped on the conversations, and told Zexion that he heard another voice once. He also told Zexion he suspected that there was a link between the Room of Sleep and Castle Oblivion.

i read this somewhere and i think the conection is between the room of sleep and castle oblivion, that in the room of sleep you get your memory's back, and in castle oblivion you lost them. that's why Xemnas talk to aqau's armor and keyblade as a friend.


and a another theory. in one of the ansem reports it said's that only 2 people have turned back from a heartless to a normal person. and that were sora and Xehanort. maybe he has 2 nobody's but i don't know of this is possible




sorry for my bad english, i'm dutch.

no Xigbar only heard Xemnas to talk someone, but didnt heard "what exatly they were talkiing about"..

p.s. I have seen badder english
 

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i got a Q. could it be that MX lost his heart, just like kairy did. she get a nobody, without losing her heart and being whole with a nobody, maybe is MX the same. that he not get a heartless, and so also no memory's. what is making the Xehanort we know, the apprentices of ATW. and Xehanort was doing research on hearts and artificial hearts. maybe he give him self a heart, and a fake heart can't get lost in darkness. that can to explain the Xehanort heartless, who had memory's of before and hold his human form.





I have transcended to an existence of only the heart. I should have come back as a Heartless, but there is no sign of such a transformation.

My body has surely perished. However, I am different from the other Heartless, keeping the memories of before, and I have not taken on the form of a Heartless. It is clear that there are still many things to be studied.

ansem report 12 (Final mix)
writing by Xehanort who had taken ansem's name.
it's a very good theory...........and the report only strengthens the argument.....i like it
 

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Xigbar often eavesdropped on the conversations, and told Zexion that he heard another voice once. He also told Zexion he suspected that there was a link between the Room of Sleep and Castle Oblivion.

i read this somewhere and i think the conection is between the room of sleep and castle oblivion, that in the room of sleep you get your memory's back, and in castle oblivion you lost them. that's why Xemnas talk to aqau's armor and keyblade as a friend.


and a another theory. in one of the ansem reports it said's that only 2 people have turned back from a heartless to a normal person. and that were sora and Xehanort. maybe he has 2 nobody's but i don't know of this is possible




sorry for my bad english, i'm dutch.

your right about the connection the room of sleep is where sora slept in wasn't it? so then that has got to be where you can reclaim memories. personally i don't think we have seen the last of castle oblivion or the room of sleep
 

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no Xigbar only heard Xemnas to talk someone, but didnt heard "what exatly they were talkiing about"..

p.s. I have seen badder english

he suspected that there is a connection between castle oblivion and the room of sleep, not that there is for sure. so he didn't hear it;)
 

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the room of sleep is in radiant garden in the basement of the castle from ATW. the room where sora was when he was asleep was in the basement of the old mansion in twilight town( do not know the name now)
 

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i figured they were both technically called the room of sleep cause well you do sleep in both rooms and memories are reclaimed but i think i see the difference now
 

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but do you think it's possible that Xehanort has 2 nobody's?

i do think it's possible because if he turned human again but then became a heartless again yeah a second nobody would have to be made because like the game stated for every heartless a nobody is created good thinking:thumbsup:
 
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but do you think it's possible that Xehanort has 2 nobody's?
I think that Xehanort would have rather two HEARTLESS. read:

-If MX´s heart is in Terra=

¤Ansem is Mx´s heartless

¤Xemnas is Terra´s nobody

¤Terra´s heartless is yet to be seen
 

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terra and MX are totally different. and he doesn't have 2 heartless because his heartless get his heart back and become the half of a human. and there was something about MX saying that he brook the wall between worlds and that made him what he was but for breaking that wall there have to be a keyblade to open the door to the heart of a worlds heart, or a heartless who breaking the wall to steal the world's heart. so maybe MX where a heartless and break the wall and changes back to who he was. only than not whole because his nobody is some where.

than another thing a nobody goes to a world in-between. maybe radiant garden is a world in-between and that's why he born there and ATW found him there.

another thing as someone change in a nobody the memories get to the nobody. Xehanort doesn't have any memories. that makes that MX was for a short time a heartless and only has a few memories.

when ATW recoverd him he begin to do experiments on Xehanort. he discoverd that he is some kind of superhuman. ATW tries to unlock the memories he doesn't have any more.



shall perform an experiment to probe the depths of a person's heart. One of my own apprentices, Xehanort, has volunteered to be a subject.

The young man has served me ever since I nursed him back from death's door some years ago.

He had lost all his memories at the time, but later showed remarkable intellectual curiosity and readily absorbed my teachings, gaining deep wisdom. Any mental immaturity is surely due to his young age.

If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological test, I may be able to recall the past locked away within. My apprentice Even has also shown great interest in Xehanort's memories.

But is he really the right subject? Xehanort does indeed exhibit extraordinary talents…

Too extraordinary…

Perhaps they are even superhuman.



secret Ansem reports number 1(kh2)
 
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terra and MX are totally different. and he doesn't have 2 heartless because his heartless get his heart back and become the half of a human. and there was something about MX saying that he brook the wall between worlds and that made him what he was but for breaking that wall there have to be a keyblade to open the door to the heart of a worlds heart, or a heartless who breaking the wall to steal the world's heart. so maybe MX where a heartless and break the wall and changes back to who he was. only than not whole because his nobody is some where.

than another thing a nobody goes to a world in-between. maybe radiant garden is a world in-between and that's why he born there and ATW found him there.

another thing as someone change in a nobody the memories get to the nobody. Xehanort doesn't have any memories. that makes that MX was for a short time a heartless and only has a few memories.

when ATW recoverd him he begin to do experiments on Xehanort. he discoverd that he is some kind of superhuman. ATW tries to unlock the memories he doesn't have any more.



shall perform an experiment to probe the depths of a person's heart. One of my own apprentices, Xehanort, has volunteered to be a subject.

The young man has served me ever since I nursed him back from death's door some years ago.

He had lost all his memories at the time, but later showed remarkable intellectual curiosity and readily absorbed my teachings, gaining deep wisdom. Any mental immaturity is surely due to his young age.

If I explore Xehanort's heart with psychological test, I may be able to recall the past locked away within. My apprentice Even has also shown great interest in Xehanort's memories.

But is he really the right subject? Xehanort does indeed exhibit extraordinary talents…

Too extraordinary…

Perhaps they are even superhuman.



secret Ansem reports number 1(kh2)

you have very good thoughts, btw..
 

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the part for the wall between the worlds



Afterward, in the desert (from KH2FM+'s Secret Movie), the old man (UEM) confronts Terra.
Xehanort: Did you really think you could grasp that last glimmer? The wall between the light and the darkness have exceeded one another, creating the original me, and here you

are waiting for me. (While Xehanort is talking, he opens one of his hands in greeting, enraging Terra.)
Terra: I have a friend.
Terra summons the keyblade with his right hand.
 
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haha thank you but give some hints or something to work it furter.
I like the part, where you say that MX was heartless before. I have NEVER heard that before, but still it is very cool!:thumbup:

MX having a nobody somewhere? AWESOMENESS!!
 
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