Normally I don't post theories about Unbirths because it's usually an area I think so little is known about that it is all too grey, but last night I couldn't sleep and an idea came to mind. Parts of this is borrowed from points I remembered about other theories, so credit goes to those people respectively, but I also hope to add something new...here goes nothing. I'll start off here with the basic idea of what an Unbirth is and then try to answer any obvious questions I can think of that would cause my idea to go down in flames.
This part isn't new...Unbirths are beings who have had their memories taken, lost, or forcibly removed, you've all heard of this and how they could connect to memories because the symbol is a folded memory card from Castle Oblivion, allow me to expand on how losing memories would create something as wild as an Unbirth rather than simply amnesia.
The Unbirth symbol is made of three sections, the two round parts and the square. They are all empty. To me the three sections stand for something rather than the obvious heart, body, and soul. One I believe is memories, obvious, another is sense of self, something the memories help shape, and one more that I think goes along the lines of a purpose in life. Now I know that hasn't been addressed by Kingdom Hearts before but for this theory it's important enough to warrant it's own section...Now what would happen if one loses their memories? To me the other two, sense of self and purpose, would go out with it because without memories the being wouldn't know who or what they were nor what they are supposed to be doing. That in turn would cause mutation and the being would revert to the form of an Unbirth which franticly is searching for new memories inorder to regain a sense of self and purpose thus explaining their wild movements and how the Unbirths multiply in number. The memories they take from others don't belong with them and are then rejected resulting in the person whose memories were taken to become an Unbirth and the Unbirth who took them to remain one.
...That's the basic idea I have, on to the obstacles...
How are they ancestors of the Heartless?
That one isn't so hard to think of an answer for. The heartless are made when a person loses their heart to darkness causing it to sort of take on a life of it's own. This to me is the next logical step from the idea of an Unbirth. Taking out the contents of the heart....taking out the heart itself. Makes sense to me.
Don't people simply become comatose when their memories are lost?
That question I remember being asked about something else I brought up a while ago. Not sure if that really is a good question because asking it makes it lose automatically assuming the question is correct and beings do in fact enter a comatose state when memories are taken. A coma as defined in a dictionary means a state of deep prolonged unconsciousness...sounds a little like a deep sleep...birth by sleep...hello! The Unbirths wouldn't start moving around on their own right away I would assume. Once the memories leave it would be a little while before the sense of self and purpose leave or rather decay and during that time the person would be in a state similar to a coma and be "born" as an Unbirth through the sleeping process.
How does the name Unbirth have meaning? (Beyond being born by being comatose)
First I'm gonna be blunt...Unbirth's might in fact be BwHoPL(Beings with Hearts of Pure Light) or something similar to it.
Now here's the confusing part because it get's into babies...yes, babies, and not the "in the womb" kind either. Babies when they are born, especially in the real world, are totally and completely innocent, and (sorry to bring religion into this, but I think it's somewhat necessary) if they were to die as a baby, they would be believed by some to go directly to heaven because they have not committed any sin or had a chance to even commit to god....in KH terms the idea would be that they have no darkness in their hearts, full of light, but not forever of course. They can be corrupted as everyone is at least a little bit, aside from the 7 Princesses of Heart, who according to this would be beings immune to the corruption of darkness and thus remain with hearts full of light. When babies are born, they not only are totally and completely innocent, but do not have any memories, sense of self, or purpose; those three are developed as life goes on. Unbirths would of course be similar to this, except babies are naturally this way.
Here's where it gets more into meaning of the word...by having a being with fully developed memories, sense of self, and purpose, suddenly lose them, their hearts are unnaturally reverted to the state of an infant having just been born and are now, in a way, re-born, kind of ironic with the name no? Except these beings are not meant to be in that condition and thus the light they have is now corrupt because any darkness that would have been in their hearts left with the memories and all that. Thus creating a sort of mutant for lack of a better term giving meaning to the word Unbirth in a similar fashion to that of a Heartless and Nobody.
Last major obstacle and one I admittedly can't fully defeat at this time...Why are they extinct?
In order to even begin to answer this I have to explain another crazy idea...the Kingdom Hearts Master Xehanort summoned in the secret trailer was the Kingdom Hearts of memories. Like a giant heart, it gathers the contents of the hearts of those who are now Unbirths in itself. I believe that this Kingdom Hearts may not even exist anymore due to events that took place in the BBS game and it is now impossible to become an Unbirth. Why and how this all happened I'm sorry to say I don't know or can't think of a decent explanation at this time that woudn't require vast knowledge of BBS. A thought I had about this would be that MX was searching for it in order to harness the powers of people's memories...or perhaps retrieve those of a specific individual. I also have ideas concerning Ven and DS becoming, pertaining to Ven, or already being, directed to DS, Unbirths.
Phew, sorry that was so long. I'm glad I got that all out, and believe it or not, I probably forgot to mention something...hopefully someone will make a counter argument that will jog my memory. If you read this far I thank you for your time, hopefully this made sense to you. I am looking forward to any debates that may come out of this.
This part isn't new...Unbirths are beings who have had their memories taken, lost, or forcibly removed, you've all heard of this and how they could connect to memories because the symbol is a folded memory card from Castle Oblivion, allow me to expand on how losing memories would create something as wild as an Unbirth rather than simply amnesia.
The Unbirth symbol is made of three sections, the two round parts and the square. They are all empty. To me the three sections stand for something rather than the obvious heart, body, and soul. One I believe is memories, obvious, another is sense of self, something the memories help shape, and one more that I think goes along the lines of a purpose in life. Now I know that hasn't been addressed by Kingdom Hearts before but for this theory it's important enough to warrant it's own section...Now what would happen if one loses their memories? To me the other two, sense of self and purpose, would go out with it because without memories the being wouldn't know who or what they were nor what they are supposed to be doing. That in turn would cause mutation and the being would revert to the form of an Unbirth which franticly is searching for new memories inorder to regain a sense of self and purpose thus explaining their wild movements and how the Unbirths multiply in number. The memories they take from others don't belong with them and are then rejected resulting in the person whose memories were taken to become an Unbirth and the Unbirth who took them to remain one.
...That's the basic idea I have, on to the obstacles...
How are they ancestors of the Heartless?
That one isn't so hard to think of an answer for. The heartless are made when a person loses their heart to darkness causing it to sort of take on a life of it's own. This to me is the next logical step from the idea of an Unbirth. Taking out the contents of the heart....taking out the heart itself. Makes sense to me.
Don't people simply become comatose when their memories are lost?
That question I remember being asked about something else I brought up a while ago. Not sure if that really is a good question because asking it makes it lose automatically assuming the question is correct and beings do in fact enter a comatose state when memories are taken. A coma as defined in a dictionary means a state of deep prolonged unconsciousness...sounds a little like a deep sleep...birth by sleep...hello! The Unbirths wouldn't start moving around on their own right away I would assume. Once the memories leave it would be a little while before the sense of self and purpose leave or rather decay and during that time the person would be in a state similar to a coma and be "born" as an Unbirth through the sleeping process.
How does the name Unbirth have meaning? (Beyond being born by being comatose)
First I'm gonna be blunt...Unbirth's might in fact be BwHoPL(Beings with Hearts of Pure Light) or something similar to it.
Now here's the confusing part because it get's into babies...yes, babies, and not the "in the womb" kind either. Babies when they are born, especially in the real world, are totally and completely innocent, and (sorry to bring religion into this, but I think it's somewhat necessary) if they were to die as a baby, they would be believed by some to go directly to heaven because they have not committed any sin or had a chance to even commit to god....in KH terms the idea would be that they have no darkness in their hearts, full of light, but not forever of course. They can be corrupted as everyone is at least a little bit, aside from the 7 Princesses of Heart, who according to this would be beings immune to the corruption of darkness and thus remain with hearts full of light. When babies are born, they not only are totally and completely innocent, but do not have any memories, sense of self, or purpose; those three are developed as life goes on. Unbirths would of course be similar to this, except babies are naturally this way.
Here's where it gets more into meaning of the word...by having a being with fully developed memories, sense of self, and purpose, suddenly lose them, their hearts are unnaturally reverted to the state of an infant having just been born and are now, in a way, re-born, kind of ironic with the name no? Except these beings are not meant to be in that condition and thus the light they have is now corrupt because any darkness that would have been in their hearts left with the memories and all that. Thus creating a sort of mutant for lack of a better term giving meaning to the word Unbirth in a similar fashion to that of a Heartless and Nobody.
Last major obstacle and one I admittedly can't fully defeat at this time...Why are they extinct?
In order to even begin to answer this I have to explain another crazy idea...the Kingdom Hearts Master Xehanort summoned in the secret trailer was the Kingdom Hearts of memories. Like a giant heart, it gathers the contents of the hearts of those who are now Unbirths in itself. I believe that this Kingdom Hearts may not even exist anymore due to events that took place in the BBS game and it is now impossible to become an Unbirth. Why and how this all happened I'm sorry to say I don't know or can't think of a decent explanation at this time that woudn't require vast knowledge of BBS. A thought I had about this would be that MX was searching for it in order to harness the powers of people's memories...or perhaps retrieve those of a specific individual. I also have ideas concerning Ven and DS becoming, pertaining to Ven, or already being, directed to DS, Unbirths.
Phew, sorry that was so long. I'm glad I got that all out, and believe it or not, I probably forgot to mention something...hopefully someone will make a counter argument that will jog my memory. If you read this far I thank you for your time, hopefully this made sense to you. I am looking forward to any debates that may come out of this.
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