i need to know why people are saying that nier games are sexualized and that a nier replicant trophy is transphobic. which seems kinda weird and hurtful
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Considering how Yoko Taro (the developer of Nier) is a man who hides his face, recoiled into a closet to avoid backlash from one of his game's endings and that he made it a POINT to have 2B's rear perfect and requested fans to collect images of the android's booty and send them to him, is it really that surprising to you Cealum?i need to know why people are saying that nier games are sexualized and that a nier replicant trophy is transphobic. which seems kinda weird and hurtful
wow........ im speechless..Kaine is intersex and is bullied about it. It’s also a source of insecurity for her. That alone is fine because it’s a part of her story and a lot of trans and intersex people feel attached to Kaine because of that. Kaine uses her clothes as a way to feel more feminine.
The problem is that Kaine’s clothes are just lingerie and the men who created designed her didn’t need to do that. There are pieces of concept art that have Kaine in more modest outfits, but it was the lingerie that ended up being what they put her in. The critique isn’t posed at Kaine but the people who created her.
Personally in terms of how I feel about it, I fall in the middle. I don’t like it because it was men who designed her with the male gaze in mind, but I also don’t mind it because I think she looks great in the outfit and it’s also a subversive because it makes certain cis hetero men uncomfortable once they realize she’s intersex and they have to confront their prejudices head-on.
The new problem here is that the devs have added in a trophy where you look up at Kaine’s underwear to “reveal” her “secret” which is demeaning to intersex people and to Kaine as a character who is already bullied in-game for being intersex. It also sexualizes and fetishizes her further and goes against the narrative of the game.
yes since i don't read up on the director since i thought he was a lil creepy. (pls no hate) and is he like closet lgbt or sum? is he like marshmello who hides his face. and i always wonder what is the reason why he hides his face.Considering how Yoko Taro (the developer of Nier) is a man who hides his face, recoiled into a closet to avoid backlash from one of his game's endings and that he made it a POINT to have 2B's rear perfect and requested fans to collect images of the android's booty and send them to him, is it really that surprising to you Cealum?
my dumb self i had to look up what is intersex and i am still confused. is it like non binary(that is me btw) and gender fluid?Kaine is intersex and is bullied about it. It’s also a source of insecurity for her. That alone is fine because it’s a part of her story and a lot of trans and intersex people feel attached to Kaine because of that. Kaine uses her clothes as a way to feel more feminine.
The problem is that Kaine’s clothes are just lingerie and the men who created designed her didn’t need to do that. There are pieces of concept art that have Kaine in more modest outfits, but it was the lingerie that ended up being what they put her in. The critique isn’t posed at Kaine but the people who created her.
Personally in terms of how I feel about it, I fall in the middle. I don’t like it because it was men who designed her with the male gaze in mind, but I also don’t mind it because I think she looks great in the outfit and it’s also a subversive because it makes certain cis hetero men uncomfortable once they realize she’s intersex and they have to confront their prejudices head-on.
The new problem here is that the devs have added in a trophy where you look up at Kaine’s underwear to “reveal” her “secret” which is demeaning to intersex people and to Kaine as a character who is already bullied in-game for being intersex. It also sexualizes and fetishizes her further and goes against the narrative of the game.
No, so it is people who are born with reproductive or sexual anatomy that goes against your standard male or female binary.my dumb self i had to look up what is intersex and i am still confused. is it like non binary(that is me btw) and gender fluid?
Well not exactly, it's someone who is biologically somewhere between female and male. They can have sex characteristics of either sex. There are many ways people can be Intersex, the difference to Non-Binaries and Genderfuilds is that fact that it's more physical/external and less psychological/internal.my dumb self i had to look up what is intersex and i am still confused. is it like non binary(that is me btw) and gender fluid?
yes since i don't read up on the director since i thought he was a lil creepy. (pls no hate) and is he like closet lgbt or sum? is he like marshmello who hides his face. and i always wonder what is the reason why he hides his face.
Yoko Taro is indeed a strange man and through his games, seems to put his fetishes out in the open? Not that he says he's into such things, but sometimes it makes you wonder? He has varied characters but usually with the feminine presenting ones, he and his team just go overboard.
I'm pretty sure in Nier Automata, there was also a trophy for looking under 2B's dress long enough. They even have her character model kick the camera away if you "get caught". This Kaine one appears to be an extension of that, just worse.
I don't know Yoko Taro and based off his past work and statements, I can't say I believe he's being malicious, but at this point it's clear he's ignorant.
Exactly. It’s cruel and it surprises me it made it through so many people. And it certainly had to pass Yoko Taro’s desk so unless he wasn’t paying attention, he must have seen it too.Just heard about this trophy and I think it horrible they would make a trophy like this. I hate trophies likes this in video games that encourages people to do perverted stuff and then get rewarded for it that’s just messed up in my opinion.
Why would someone think this is funny when it’s not. Kaine has been bullied for being Intersex and has made her feel insecure and having a trophy were you are literally looking up the characters skirt several times to stare at her penis comes across as insensitive. Especially when you consider there are people who are intersex in real life and may have experienced similar insecurity because of certain parts of their bodies and I can only imagine how uncomfortable a trophy like this might make them feel.
Oh coolWell not exactly, it's someone who is biologically somewhere between female and male. They can have sex characteristics of either sex. There are many ways people can be Intersex, the difference to Non-Binaries and Genderfuilds is that fact that it's more physical/external and less psychological/internal.
I remember that vaguely. That's really bad considering she's a teenager...Haven't heard of a trophy like this since Lollipop Chainsaw, where you are encouraged to look up the main character's skirt. That trophy will then linger on your trophy list, warning all who view it of your perverse act.
It's also commonly seen in the animal kingdom, with an entire clade (Myxini, which includes the hagfish) and certain species of fish (notably the clownfish) capable of either possessing both genders or able to switch between them at certain times.Oh cool
*Giving my dad the latest iPhone* "Oh, it's futuristic like a sci-fi movie, so cool!"That's why I roll my eyes when certain people are like "TRANSGENDERISM IS AGAINST NATURE". I don't think you know very much about nature, you don't even realize how silly you sound right now.
They didn't used to have problems with scifi and fantasy writing about scenarios where characters switched gender/sex/bodies with their super futuristic technology. But now that it's almost here, suddenly it's a problem and totally out of nowhere.