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Pureblooods are the darkness of the heart given form.

Vanitas' heart is pure darkness and he has a physical form granted from nowhere. Just like Sora.
 

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Pureblooods are the darkness of the heart given form.

Vanitas' heart is pure darkness and has a physical form.
The only thing that's different is his emotions can become physical beings, he's able to think and plan, along with actually being able to control the power of his heart. It ain't that simple.
 

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I editted that post. Heartless can summon other Heartless. Certain HEartless [Xehanort] could probably summon nobodies.
Nobodies can cummon both. Vanitas has shown us that he can summon Unversed. Anyone with a dark heart could summon Heartless.

Hell, Riku summoned an Anti Sora.
And Xehanort was able to think and plan and control the powers of his heart. He was alo able to possess a human.

So you don't think Vanitas has the ability to become a heartless at will? Because he fits the criteria:

He is a literally heart given form by being removed from someone. That sounds like Sora. A projection of a heart.
Vanitas' form was gained through darkness, however, he is still a heart.
Sora's form was gained by Kairi purifying his darkness with her light. [snicker]

They just sound like two hearts going through the same prcess, with the exception of one is light nd the other is dark.
 

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I editted that post. Heartless can summon other Heartless. Certain HEartless [Xehanort] could probably summon nobodies.
Nobodies can cummon both. Vanitas has shown us that he can summon Unversed. Anyone with a dark heart could summon Heartless.

Hell, Riku summoned an Anti Sora.
And Xehanort was able to think and plan and control the powers of his heart. He was alo able to possess a human.

So you don't think Vanitas has the ability to become a heartless at will? Because he fits the criteria:

He is a literally heart given form by being removed from someone. That sounds like Sora. A projection of a heart.
Vanitas' form was gained through darkness, however, he is still a heart.
Sora's form was gained by Kairi purifying his darkness with her light. [snicker]

They just sound like two hearts going through the same prcess, with the exception of one is light nd the other is dark.
Lol! Anyways, he could, but we don't know if they will. You have to take account that he's literally raw darkness and could even be more special than Ansem since he could actually spot out beings rather than summon them. I think that he could summon them and Sai'x said the Heartless go to whoever's strongest. But still, you never know.
 

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Beautiful! That was the laugh I needed.

It goes without saying that Vanitas could summon Heartless if he was still around. But the Unversed died with him.

Vanitas is a strange entity; like Namine. Because he fits the criteria to be a human shaped Heartless like Xehanort, but is actually more like Sora. Not only that, but his heart is pure darkness. That doesn't happen naturally. As far as we know, it's only happened twice in the series with Vanitas being the second time.
 

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if vanitas were to come back (which we see in the trailer) does that mean unversed return to? so we might possibly have 3 enemies running around at once if vanitas becomes revived by KH3?
 

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Pureblooods are the darkness of the heart given form.

Vanitas' heart is pure darkness and he has a physical form granted from nowhere. Just like Sora.

Huh, when you think about it.. that does make some sense.
 

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Yes, since Vanitas was the source of the Unversed in the first place and he's returning...

Amazing...yes. It does.
 

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Regarding the Unversed, it depends on how Vanitas returns. He may not even be there physically, especially considering how this is the RoS.
 

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YX would have that power. He could summon a pure dark heart, which Vanitas is.
 

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YX would have that power. He could summon a pure dark heart, which Vanitas is.

Like I said, that may not even be Vanitas physically; it's possible YX just summoned a "phantom" of Vanitas based off of his persona. Speculative, but Nomura did say that people of darkness would appear wherever YX is.
 

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Vanitas may not return outside of the RoS in DDD
But when Sora gives Ven's heart back, he'll be able to.
Ven and Vanitas need each other.
 

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Vanitas may not return outside of the RoS in DDD
But when Sora gives Ven's heart back, he'll be able to.
Ven and Vanitas need each other.

Ven rejected and destroyed Vanitas in BBS, he won't come back just because Ven does.
 

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Ven rejected and destroyed Vanitas in BBS, he won't come back just because Ven does.

If Ven comes back, he can only do so by connecting his heart to Sora's. Sora's darkness would fill the gap of where Vanitas' would go.
 

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Not in the same way it was during BBS.
If it was, Ven would never have went to sleep.
Sora's heart filled the spot where Vanitas' was, which allowed Vanitas to be.
Ven destroyed Vanitas which broke his heart and the original connection to Sora.
Sora's darkness will compensate for it.
 

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Not in the same way it was during BBS.
If it was, Ven would never have went to sleep.
Sora's heart filled the spot where Vanitas' was, which allowed Vanitas to be.
Ven destroyed Vanitas which broke his heart and the original connection to Sora.
Sora's darkness will compensate for it.

That doesn't make sense at all.

Sora's heart was(and is) connected to Ventus, not to Vanitas. Vanitas only gained Sora's looks due to his still remaining connection to Ventus.
Ven's heart went to sleep (or rather, was forced to) because it was so heavily damaged after the destruction of the X-blade the connection to Sora wasn't sufficient enough to keep it going.
The injury was worse than when Vanitas was created, so something more than the connection was needed.

It was Ven's connection to Sora's heart which allowed Sora to feel Ven's great pain and sadness after his heart was nearly destroyed in the ending of the Final Episode.
Riku even commented on it when he suggested to Sora what to do because someone connected to him is sad.

Sora then reaches out to Ven's wounded heart ("Can you hear me?"), which follows Sora's voice through their connection into Sora's heart where Ven then pleads with Sora to let him stay.
 
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