So I gotta askwhat did Terra teach Riku? Giving him a Keyblade isn't teaching
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Nothing (unless you wanna say Terra taught Riku about other worlds, but he really didn't say much beyond that they exist). The game forgot it didn't actually develop their relationship outside of some 5 second fluff diologue. Couldn't take it seriously one bit.So I gotta ask what did Terra teach Riku? Giving him a Keyblade isn't teaching.
Spoiler ShowSo Demyx's one and only scene in ReMind is to get a second Replica body because Ienzo told him one would be at the KG. Underwhelming but how could any of them know that? When a Replica dies the body goes with them. There is no way that Demyx or Ienzo could have known one of the Replica's would have their bodies hijacked the way it was because it had never happened before. How did they know Repliku was going to drive out his Dark Riku counterpart and leave a perfect vessel behind like that? Way too convient when Even can just make another one. Was Demyx just waiting around for someone to die and hoping the vessel would still be in one piece? Because Xemnas, Ansem, Young Xehanort and Vanitas took their vessels with them when they all expired.
The reasoning is extremely valid, though? Up until BBS, all the worlds were isolated from the others. By KH1, interdimensional travel was a thing albeit limited to the survivors of fallen worlds taken refuge in Traverse Town. By 2, the worlds were separated again (although Sora finds a new way to go around?) and Hollow Bastion was still in the process of being restored. Plus, no one remembered Sora until a few days before KH2 even began.This has probably been posted somewhere across the existing 81 pages of this thread, but I'll reiterate: It is absolutely befuddling to me that in the span of less than a single in-universe year, characters went from sending messages in a bottle across the ocean (when multiple forms of world travel are available and relatively easy to traverse), to having smartphones that are capable of carrying a strong signal across the universe.
Aw, here's another line from ReMind I could NOT contain my laughter over:
Terranort (to Aqua): A Keyblade Master wielding their weapon in anger? How shameful.
????? This is coming from the guy who just said he had "more than enough darkness to go around", yet isn't anger a fundamental component of darkness within people? I mean, that's how it was always portrayed in the past. Case and point:
Master Xehanort (trying to coax Ventus into using his darkness): Sharpen your fear into RAGE!
Like, is Terranort just being a clown again, or am I really supposed to look at this as some poor excuse for "psychological warfare"?
Probably because neither Donald or Lingering will had the intention to expell Xehanort but just flat out destroy himI realized something. Donald's Zettaflare and Lingering Will's blast beam was awesome and all....But doesn't expelling Xehanort out of Terra's body require TERRA'S BODY TO ACTUALLY BE INTACT!?
Donald should've known. It's literally apart of their quest to bring back the other three. On top of that, I like how Ven and Aqua don't even react to this fact...like...did THEY have no intentions to expel Xehanort either? How did THEY not react to the body of their friend being incinerated? Cause it's Xehanort in there, Terra's body doesn't matter. Just flat out destroy him, right?Probably because neither Donald or Lingering will had the intention to expell Xehanort but just flat out destroy him
To be fair that was a heat of the moment decision on Donald's side. Terranort was decimating the Guardians and needed to stopped. Also Ven wasn't really in a condition to react and Aqua was probably also too worried about Ven to realize what happened.Donald should've known. It's literally apart of their quest to bring back the other three. On top of that, I like how Ven and Aqua don't even react to this fact...like...did THEY have no intentions to expel Xehanort either? How did THEY not react to the body of their friend being incinerated? Cause it's Xehanort in there, Terra's body doesn't matter. Just flat out destroy him, right?
I have more nitpicks and this time with Organization XIII! I love this group but they are not a very organized Organization. And every one of their plans failed because they didn't work together or be smart about their work.
That was a retcon to try and splice everything together which just made the story a even bigger mess! It's a beautiful mess but a mess none the less. Because Xehanort and Xemnas wanted two different things, they had to find a way to get him on the same page as the old geezer and DDD was the answer. Now it was all a facade, a facade the entire old Org died for, even Xemnas himself. Because even by Days they were still going by KH2's plan and not dropping any hints of the 13 Seekers, but like Xigbar they found a neat little thing to try and tie back with "the puppet is the more worthy vessel" which could mean anything at the time.To be honest, by KH3 we kinda know that the whole OrgXIII was meant to be a facade anyways, only meant as a failsafe and with the intention of building vessels for the true Org. They wanted Sora to fail and be taken over by Darkness to use him as a vessel, so with the exception of the clownery that Marluxia and Larxene did in CoM, everything was pretty much "whatever" for them because their real agenda was bigger than that.
But I do love the idea of them pretending to be caretakers of the worlds only to reveal their true natures later, could feature some interesting clash of ideals between Yen Sid warning Sora to be more careful while he has to decide who to side with.
The Organization's story is just a clusterfuck of betrayal and backstab. Makes me wonder why the hell would Xehanort trust these people in his body? Just about the SAME people that practically betrayed him before, minus 3.I love Organization XIII but many of their failures is because of their own backstabbing nature and unwillingness to put aside those things to work together and outsmart the heroes. A boy a duck, a dog, a mouse, and a edgy blindfolded person.
This part actually makes perfect sense to me. Larxene and Marly made it blatantly clear that they viewed Replicas as lesser, toys at best and they'd want an actual power tool at their disposal. They also viewed Namine as weak and pathetic. Namine was an abuse victim too much in the FOG to be a threat to them. I mean the only thing stopping Namine from taking them all out in one blow herself was her lack of self worth and confidence. Unless she couldn't effect Nobodies she definitely would have had the power to do so.COM: Marluxia and Larxene's plan was to use Namine to control Sora. This just seems silly when Vexen can create life from Replicas. Why not try and trick him to making them a Keyblade user all on their own instead of giving your hostage a loaded gun? Because nothing was stopping Namine but plot to sic Sora on them had she actually gained 100% control of him.
I blame Xemnas. As I pointed out in a previous post, Xemnas is said to be able to turn org members into dusks & yet that's never been demonstrated on screen. My thinking is there were actually many more human-like nobodies that Xemnas "demoted".This part actually makes perfect sense to me. Larxene and Marly made it blatantly clear that they viewed Replicas as lesser, toys at best and they'd want an actual power tool at their disposal. They also viewed Namine as weak and pathetic. Namine was an abuse victim too much in the FOG to be a threat to them. I mean the only thing stopping Namine from taking them all out in one blow herself was her lack of self worth and confidence. Unless she couldn't effect Nobodies she definitely would have had the power to do so.
On to my own Nitpick that's been nagging at me.
If Nobodies are natural occurrences like Heartless, then why is even the lowly Dusk marked with the Nobody insignia? Shouldn't there, similar to the pureblood heartless, be Nobodies without the symbol?
The higher Ranking Nobodies all having the symbols make sense, seeing they'd have been altered to be more inline with one of the numbered members, but the base Nobody shouldn't have the symbol in my opinion.
I hear you, but it's all the more reason why Marly and Larxy couldn't put their egos aside and take a easier road. I mean Xemnas and Saix both saw Replicas as inferior as well but still used one.This part actually makes perfect sense to me. Larxene and Marly made it blatantly clear that they viewed Replicas as lesser, toys at best and they'd want an actual power tool at their disposal. They also viewed Namine as weak and pathetic. Namine was an abuse victim too much in the FOG to be a threat to them. I mean the only thing stopping Namine from taking them all out in one blow herself was her lack of self worth and confidence. Unless she couldn't effect Nobodies she definitely would have had the power to do so.
On to my own Nitpick that's been nagging at me.
If Nobodies are natural occurrences like Heartless, then why is even the lowly Dusk marked with the Nobody insignia? Shouldn't there, similar to the pureblood heartless, be Nobodies without the symbol?
The higher Ranking Nobodies all having the symbols make sense, seeing they'd have been altered to be more inline with one of the numbered members, but the base Nobody shouldn't have the symbol in my opinion.
I have lots of problems with ReMind but in this case it made sense to me. Terranort sounded pretty sarcastic to me when he reproached Aqua, making her feel bad for using anger, linked to darkness when she is meant to be back in the light, so to me it was just a way to pysche her out, exploiting her self-doubt and fear after her fall to darkness and restorationAw, here's another line from ReMind I could NOT contain my laughter over:
Terranort (to Aqua): A Keyblade Master wielding their weapon in anger? How shameful.
????? This is coming from the guy who just said he had "more than enough darkness to go around", yet isn't anger a fundamental component of darkness within people? I mean, that's how it was always portrayed in the past. Case and point:
Master Xehanort (trying to coax Ventus into using his darkness): Sharpen your fear into RAGE!
Like, is Terranort just being a clown again, or am I really supposed to look at this as some poor excuse for "psychological warfare"?
This is why I always replay KH2 without cutscenes now. I'm used to wonky plots because this is KH but damn, KH2's plot is just so illogical and inconsequential it's almost rage-inducing to me.I have more nitpicks and this time with Organization XIII! I love this group but they are not a very organized Organization. And every one of their plans failed because they didn't work together or be smart about their work.
KH2: So the Organization want Sora to collect hearts for them to complete Kingdom Hearts. Using him for their own goals. This plan is fine but the way they go about it is stupid. They summon giant Heartless into worlds and expect Sora to destroy them. What if Sora is destroyed instead? You have no Keyblade then. You can't even use the argument "Well Roxas might come back from Sora's destruction" because Roxas quit the group already for reasons we didn't know. What they should have done is pretend to be a secret "World Order Agency" gain Sora's trust and pretend to help him defeat the Heartless to make sure both Sora lives and the Heart goes to Kingdom Hearts. Then when the work is all done and the KH is finished you go to TWTNW and not let Sora know your evil, that way the heroes have no idea the Organization are evil, they finish their goal, and take over the world with no conflict at all from Sora. They even could have used Maleficent and Pete as scapegoats. But of course not! The Organization can't stop twirling their mustaches for five minutes to be smart about their goal.
So I gotta askwhat did Terra teach Riku? Giving him a Keyblade isn't teaching
Aw, here's another line from ReMind I could NOT contain my laughter over:
Terranort (to Aqua): A Keyblade Master wielding their weapon in anger? How shameful.
????? This is coming from the guy who just said he had "more than enough darkness to go around", yet isn't anger a fundamental component of darkness within people? I mean, that's how it was always portrayed in the past. Case and point:
Master Xehanort (trying to coax Ventus into using his darkness): Sharpen your fear into RAGE!
Like, is Terranort just being a clown again, or am I really supposed to look at this as some poor excuse for "psychological warfare"?