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Well, there's Kanji from Persona 4 who is bisexual. Though, the game never actually has him go so far as to say "I like boys" or "I'm gay/bi" it's pretty obvious. And he's actually a main character. That's the best example I can think of, but, even they stopped short of actually making it completely clear (he does make out with a boy though).Also i have never seen a homosexual in an mainstream game could someone tell me if they have ?
I don't feel like this is fair. No one says this for Sora and Kairi but because Sora and Riku are boys suddenly it's "looking into this too deeply" to consider they might have a bit of a romantic relationship? Society has taught people to think of things in a girl/boy relationship way. If you present a girl and a boy friendship, most people are quick to accept that they have a relationship or could have one, yet the minute someone considers anything different suddenly it's "looking into it too deeply". The only reason people think Sora and Kairi are a romantic couple is primarily because they're a boy and a girl. Had Riku been a girl, and his character stayed exactly the same throughout KH1 and the series, then I bet you there would be tons of people saying that they have a romantic relationship, and no one would accuse someone of "looking too deeply" into it. But, because he's a boy, suddenly it's different. Suddenly it's looking too deeply, or being a "fangirl" or being sick/gross/wrong/disgusting (as i've seen a lot of people say in regards to this topic).This. Yeah sure, these characters might get more screen time than others but honestly, people look into this a little too deeply. I blame it on the fan girls. I can't stand them touting random pairs of couples, especially with anime.
This, so much.I fail to see why. For the most part, this applies for basically every guy-girl friendship ever. SoKai itself is quite a prime example where because Kairi's a girl, suddenly the Paopu's "romantic", her being special to Sora means she's his childhood sweetheart when the most we've seen was a wall drawing, and the two barely get any screen time and proper development.
But because it's a guy and a girl, it's more likely a "relationship" than Sora and Riku, two characters whose trials and tribulations and coming to terms with each other is basically what makes the series go round.
It's not about whether or not everyone assumes that they are going to end up together, it's more about the fact that, because she's a girl and because he's a boy everyone pretty much agrees there is a romantic link there. An intended one. Even though most of the things they do could be linked back to friendship, just like Sora and Riku. It's really all about society's forced image of the guy/girl relationship that makes SoKai "okay" but SoRiku as "looking too deeply into it".To be fair, does everyone assume that Kairi and Sora are going to end up together just because she's a girl?
It doesn't classify it as a heterosexual relationship either.I agree with you partially. SoKai and Roxas/Namine pairings also piss me off, along with the whole romantic Papou thing, but like Toacha said, I feel like its nothing more than a bromance. Just because they've gone through trials and tribulations, or Riku's severe jealousy does not classify a homosexual relationship between them. They've been friends since childhood, and are in fact best friends.
That is a great description of their relationships.I agree with you partially. SoKai and Roxas/Namine pairings also piss me off, along with the whole romantic Papou thing, but like Toacha said, I feel like its nothing more than a bromance. Just because they've gone through trials and tribulations, or Riku's severe jealousy does not classify a homosexual relationship between them. They've been friends since childhood, and are in fact best friends.
They share a nakama friendship, which this website Nakama - Television Tropes & Idioms defines best:
The relationship is often considered as "more pure", or deeper than mere friendship, but more innocent than romance. After one helps another in danger, gratitude is often dismissed with "Think Nothing Of It — you would have done it for me."
That's kind of it. I have no doubt that Sora/Riku and Roxas/Axel love eachother, but I just don't see it as the love of one's significant other. They both have amazing relationships which are true testaments of the trials that real friendships go through but that doesn't necessarily scream boyfriend material to me. I'm not against it, I just don't see it.Yeah, it's damn possible and also really hinted in some cases.
Yet there is always to consider what kind of relationship and what kind of love comes into play.
A close relationship doesn't always involve interaction on the sexual level, that's a fact supporters as well as opponents tend to forget sometimes.
The Kingdom Hearts series itself is about strong and very intimate bonds, yet not on the *excuse my choice of words* "dirty" level much westerners tend to think.
Even if two girls or guys are sleeping together while embracing each other this doesn't imply anything bad.
Poor choice of words I suppose by saying they would end up together, I meant more the romantic possibility. In KH1 when the Paopu still referenced a romantic link instead of a friendship link like it does in BBS, I saw basis for a romantic relationship between Sora and Kairi. After BBS debunked that the Paopu was romantic, I just saw a friendship basis for Sora and Kairi. I don't see a romantic connection for anyone right now, I just see friendships.It's not about whether or not everyone assumes that they are going to end up together, it's more about the fact that, because she's a girl and because he's a boy everyone pretty much agrees there is a romantic link there. An intended one. Even though most of the things they do could be linked back to friendship, just like Sora and Riku. It's really all about society's forced image of the guy/girl relationship that makes SoKai "okay" but SoRiku as "looking too deeply into it".
I don't feel like this is fair. No one says this for Sora and Kairi but because Sora and Riku are boys suddenly it's "looking into this too deeply" to consider they might have a bit of a romantic relationship? Society has taught people to think of things in a girl/boy relationship way. If you present a girl and a boy friendship, most people are quick to accept that they have a relationship or could have one, yet the minute someone considers anything different suddenly it's "looking into it too deeply". The only reason people think Sora and Kairi are a romantic couple is primarily because they're a boy and a girl. Had Riku been a girl, and his character stayed exactly the same throughout KH1 and the series, then I bet you there would be tons of people saying that they have a romantic relationship, and no one would accuse someone of "looking too deeply" into it. But, because he's a boy, suddenly it's different. Suddenly it's looking too deeply, or being a "fangirl" or being sick/gross/wrong/disgusting (as i've seen a lot of people say in regards to this topic).
Well, you're definitely in the minority then, as most people wouldn't.I think that SoKai is just as guilty of "looking too deeply into it" just as SoRiku is.
I agree completely, and I think KH would be a really interesting place to do such.I've noticed that more and more gay characters are cropping up in movies, books, and TV Shows. But not games. I feel there should be more gay characters in games.
"Not Good" would be my guess.I wonder how those who are gay feel about this and their sexuality not being represented, too.
I agree completely, and I think KH would be a really interesting place to do such.
It's not about whether or not everyone assumes that they are going to end up together, it's more about the fact that, because she's a girl and because he's a boy everyone pretty much agrees there is a romantic link there. An intended one. Even though most of the things they do could be linked back to friendship, just like Sora and Riku. It's really all about society's forced image of the guy/girl relationship that makes SoKai "okay" but SoRiku as "looking too deeply into it".
I think Demyx was a missed opportunity. He always seemed kind of gay to me, and he's a minor character so it wouldn't have even been that big of a deal for those "concerned parents". Plus, exploring orientation with Nobodies would have been interesting.Same here, there are several relationships Nomura could use to introduce a gay relationship. Not like he'd use them.
If only Nomura would introduce one in the next KH saga...
I think, from an official standpoint, the relationships about KH will always be "friends". Sora and Kairi are friends that care about each other, just like Sora and Riku and Terra and Ven, etc. But, it's clear that even if the "official" standpoint is that SoKai are friends, the game is clearly trying to emphasize that there is more there to the point where it's trying to scream at you. Whereas the really great relationship, SoRi, is brushed under the "official" rug.I agree with this so much. I always thought Sora and Kairi were just friends - nothing more, nothing less. SoKai is incredibly forced, most likely because she's a girl and Riku isn't - so it's more 'safe'. I don't think you need to look very deeply into the games, the Sora-Riku elements scream at you - as Smile said, the entirety of KH1 is based around their close bond and its insecurities - it was hardly about Kairi at all. KH2 is pretty much the same idea, however more based on the redemption aspect of their relationship and the moving on towards something stronger between the two of them.
So whereas I have noticed that lack of female presence does contribute to it, I definetely do see something more than just friendship between a few of the male characters, primarily Sora and Riku. Or maybe Smile's right and they've neglected the female characters for a reason. I'm starting to think that's the case right about now.
We all have to keep in mind that Nomura's an ambiguous fellow as well - never the type to point things out directly.
I think Demyx was a missed opportunity. He always seemed kind of gay to me, and he's a minor character so it wouldn't have even been that big of a deal for those "concerned parents". Plus, exploring orientation with Nobodies would have been interesting.
I think it's just cause his voice matches his character. I never saw anything overtly gay about Marluxia.I was just considering Marluxia's voice. Maybe that was the reason why they gave him such a deep, sinister voice, to kind of counteract his gay qualities?
Any of them could come back, really.But meh, Organization XIII is extinct now, with the exception of Roxas and Xion who reside in Sora, so any relationships that could have been are gone now.
Any man who acts somewhat emotional or show any closeness to someone of the same sex is automatically homosexual, subtextually homosexual, or just in that range to some people. That's why men overall in society (real life) rarely show any of those traits, or they will be labeled. By actual men themselves too, because everyone has a vision of what's masculine or not. That sort of direction can be followed when it comes to shows, movies, anime, or games too. Kind of sad. You don't see anyone labeling females as lesbians by a hug unless they're in make-out sessions.
Marluxia i think people only think so because of the pink factor. I dont know much about him simply because RE:com never came to Europe DAMN YOU NOMURA
Even that falls under gay stereotypes, actually. Larxene could be his hag or beard.Yet from all Org members he was closest with Larxene, a woman.