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Roxas was classified as a special nobody that has a heart. the only possible way that Roxas could have a heart is if when in the first game when Sora stabbed himself to give Kairi back her heart he released Ven's heart that he had sealed in himself giving to Roxas(his nobody) unconsciously at the time.:idea:
...:huh:

Are you just slow or stupid? I'm not asking to be a smartass or be mean, but are you?
 

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It was said in the information given in the upcomnig game Coded...

If you're lost in the Darkness, join your hands like together before.

Exactly the same as Roxas and Namine's case. Sora and Riku's case (Although they failed to join hands). Kairi and Namine's case.

Well, guess I'll just have to think out the commonality between them.
 

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well, i am not slow or stupid thank you very much. when i have my theories, i acutally look things up to see if they aren't true or not so ha take that.

Well, if you're not slow or stupid, then why did you bump a thread that was 7 months old? Can someone say necromancy? Did you think I meant your theory? Why would I talk about something I don't care about. And by that, I meant your so called theory, if so could it be called. I honestly wouldn't know, I didn't read it.

Well, point is, don't bump 7 month old threads.
 

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The ReasOn Roxas Could weild 2 Keyblades is Becuz hes the Nobody of Sora...But he was an Incomplete nobody...Becuz Sora, after being turned into a heartless Became normal agin

So Roxas had a Heart..meaning he could weild a keyblade.....BUT
In His heart were Soras memories Of Kairi ANd Riku

Kairi=Oathkeeper
Riku=Oblivion
 

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Well, if you're not slow or stupid, then why did you bump a thread that was 7 months old? Can someone say necromancy? Did you think I meant your theory? Why would I talk about something I don't care about. And by that, I meant your so called theory, if so could it be called. I honestly wouldn't know, I didn't read it.

Well, point is, don't bump 7 month old threads.

well excuse me, i just got back on this forum about two weeks ago AND i wasn't on here since July of last year so excuse me. i thought that this theory was great AND THAT'S WHY!!!!!:angry:
 
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^Everyone needs to calm down and chill, I personally hate dual wielding because it's limited. Also, as I've said before, I highly doubt Ven's heart would exist for ten years without going back to KH. :glare:
 

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well excuse me, i just got back on this forum about two weeks ago AND i wasn't on here since July of last year so excuse me. i thought that this theory was great AND THAT'S WHY!!!!!:angry:

That doesn't excuse you for bumping a seven month old thread. And for the record, Ven's heart isn't in Roxas. There is no possible way for it to be so. So, no I won't excuse you. Just post in current threads from now on. And you can be mad at me all you want, I really don't care. Just stay within the last couple weeks of February. If a thread is dead, it's dead for a reason.
 
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Ven's heart isn't in Roxas.

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^^^^^^^^^^^^
Seconded.

We have no way of knowing that. Simply because YOU say it's impossible doesn't mean it is. There are plenty of ways it could be and if you plan on pulling that Kh logic says no card, then don't bother. Kh logic can easily be changed. That's why it's Kh logic. Nomura can change and explain things off easily. Nobody can say it's for sure that Ven's heart isn't in Roxas, just as nobody can say for sure it is. But there are possibilities. Countless threads posted about this theory have shown that. Not counting the ones that didn't back up their claims of course.
 
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^Merely saying that it's a possibiltiy doesn't matter. I mean anyone can just say, "Oh, there is gonna be a rip in the fabric of time that swallows up the whole KH Universe" and no one can say it's wrong or right. It's a possibilty just like everything else. So really all everyone is doing, is making a continuing web of possiblities, and I bet that when the three games come out, all of your possibilites will be wrong. :glare:
 
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Anima Relic: You want evidence of this? Fine.

Roxas is hinted to have a heart. DiZ says it when he says "Roxas' heart and Kairi's heart are conecting" something along those lines, and then Axel saying in Final Mix AND the novel "You have a heart don't you? Namine said the same thing" Roxas responds with a "lol i dunno"

When Nomura was asked about Roxas' heart:

"In the additional event "Farwell to a Friend", there's a scene where Axel tells Roxas "You really do have a heart, don't you". What is the actual case here?

Nomura: In this scene, it ends bringing up more mysteries about Roxas, so for the answer, maybe take care to follow your hunches well, it's also related to Xehanort's memories, but I can't give any specifics now."

huh. Well, that pretty much is a 70% on Roxas having a heart.
But wait! What was that again?

"it's also related to Xehanort's memories"
Xehanort huh? Alot happened with X's memories. Hell, thats what BBS is about right? Oh, and isn't Ven within his memories as well? HMM. LETS LOOK AT SOME MORE THINGS

Magazine scan:
Terra: "What have you done with his/her heart?!"
In the case that this is Ven he is talking about, obviously SOMETHING happens to Ven's heart. (Unless it's Aqua's.)

Magazine scan:
Ven: "Blah blah blah I want to be erased."
The scene is at destiny island beach. Riku and Sora are playing.
Ven OBVISOULY wants to not existed any more. But it can't be that easy can it? Of course not because SOMEHOW, a NOBODY with supposedly a HEART pops up weilding keyblades that look EXACTLY LIKE HIM. I F*CKING WONDER WHY.

Q: DUURR HUUR, but VAT! If it IS Ven's heart, then he isn't a nobody.
A. Roxas is a special nobody remember? And Nomura already said there were more mysteries about him.

Q: Then why doesn't he remember anything?
A: "I want to be erased" HM. IT SOUNDS LIKE HE DOESN'T WANT TO REMEMBER OR BE REMEMBERED. PERHAPS SOMEONE FIX'D IT FOR HIM.

Q: But that was 10 yrs ago, what the hell?
A: Sora. Supposed Ven is erased, but not completely because perhaps A. he is still needed B. Because he's luved, c. All of the above, F. Because Nomura is a douche.
In some fruity f*cking magical way, Ven's heart ends up in the body of 5 yr old Sora where it rests there in silence.

10 YRS LATUR
Shit happens, Sora stabs himself, his body and ven's heart are released THUS WHY ROXAS HAS A HEART AND WHY ROX LOOKS LIKE VEN. APPRANTLY IN KH YOUR HEART DETERMINES YOUR SEX AND PHYSICAL FEATURES. F*CKING NAMINE.

ROXAS MERGES BACK WITH SORA THUS SORA HAS TWO HEARTS AGAIN AND CAN WEILD TWO KEYBLADES

Q: But wait! Dual weilding is just because the faries gave him new clothes
A: NOMURA SAYZ:

"The keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the keyblade at the same time. This can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort's memories, but this point can't be touched on just yet."

THERE. HOWS THAT FOR F*CKING EVIDENCE?!!
BRB NEED HOT STEAMY SORA X RIKU PORN BECAUSE I'M A RAGING FANGIRL.
CRUISE CONTROL. F*CK YEA.


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Note, that I'm not saying you have to believe this, I just encourage thee to STFU UP AND LURK MOAR.
 

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^Merely saying that it's a possibiltiy doesn't matter. I mean anyone can just say, "Oh, there is gonna be a rip in the fabric of time that swallows up the whole KH Universe" and no one can say it's wrong or right. It's a possibilty just like everything else. So really all everyone is doing, is making a continuing web of possiblities, and I bet that when the three games come out, all of your possibilites will be wrong. :glare:

Well merely saying that you know 100% for sure is not possible. Nobody can know 100% for sure until the games come out. That's what my point was. I realize that everyone is making possibilities, but that's exactly what I mean. To say that you KNOW one is right or wrong ridiculous. Nobody but Nomura and those involved with making the game know for sure.

EDIT: Thank you V.A.T. Glad somebody who supports this theory has access to those things. Or rather. Knows where to find em. o.o;

V.A.T.13 said:
"The keyblade that Roxas used and the thing that Sora once lost in Castle Oblivion are the same thing. Furthermore, these two both used the keyblade at the same time. This can be explained by the relationship between Roxas and Sora. Thus, that both can wield two keyblades in fact has an important meaning. This is also related to Xehanort's memories, but this point can't be touched on just yet."

Quoted for emphasis. Probably the most noteworthy piece of evidence.
 

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We have no way of knowing that. Simply because YOU say it's impossible doesn't mean it is.

I don't truthfully hold myself to those PMF = rightness comments I make. It's all for show. I do accurately calls them as I sees them.

There are plenty of ways it could be and if you plan on pulling that Kh logic says no card, then don't bother. Kh logic can easily be changed. That's why it's Kh logic.

But until it does, that is IF it does, I'm right by KH logic. The law of the universe says that if a heart leaves a body, a heartless is made. This applies to the post BBS era only.

Nomura can change and explain things off easily. Nobody can say it's for sure that Ven's heart isn't in Roxas, just as nobody can say for sure it is.

Only to people who aren't good at what they do. But anyone who has been following the rules astutely like I do, know the truth. Like Namine not being Kairi's nobody. She wasn't really. That's just a plot hole they poorly tried to cover up. "Nomura can change his mind" is the second weakest debate point. Try again.

But there are possibilities. Countless threads posted about this theory have shown that. Not counting the ones that didn't back up their claims of course.

What, it went into Roxas after Sora released his heart? Sorry, no. There ARE many possibilities, but none of them are equal to Ven's heart in Roxas.
 
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^ I know that, i'm just saying how everyone always say "it's a possiblity" and then that's that. Just like how I'm gonna say it right now, "VAT that's great that you have seemingly strong evidence and all, but it's still only a possiblity :lol:"

So in all reality, it's a stalemate, no one wins, except for me, because I proved my point.
 
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