I like Xion,but it's more out of desperation than anything else. I've been dying for a female protagonist to have some semblance of character development, and not exist solely to be a damsel in distress/ love interest waiting for some guy to save her etc. I'll take the character with strong development that can save her own ass then the Kairi and Namine's of the series. However, I'll take Aqua over any of them. Larxene to, but she's an antagonist.
Anyway, I do see why you and others don't like her. She's a marysue and pointless in the overall Kh mythos.
Plays devils' advocate.
Marysue-
14 member of organization 13.
Wields a key-blade.
Looks exactly like Kairi.
Instant bff with Axel and Roxas
Sympathy sue- was made from beginning , middle, and end for people to feel sorry for her.
It was her game featuring Roxas not the other way around.
Bottom-line-She's pretty much a walking fan-fiction.
Answered questions that were already answered in Kh2.
Why can Roxas duel-wield? Who seriously cared about this? Of all the unanswered plotholes in the series they go with this one that wasn't really one to begin with. Riku explained it just fine. Roxas could wield the key-blade because he's Sora 's nobody. Who cares about the number wielded. Key-blade is key-blade.
Xigbar knew other wielders?
Confirmed by Xigbar himself in Kh2.
Replicas Exist?- Got that in Com.
Pointless-
Did we really need yet another clone of Sora? Roxas had that covered, and if we needed a female version well technically Namine fit the bill for that as well.
Again I like Xion,but I do see where the people who don't are coming from.
Word. Some more things people smarter than I have said:
risachantag on dA said:...well known Mary Sue drama devices.
The accused is charged with the following:
3 counts of fainting into the arms of Roxas/Axel
3 counts of being unconscious for extended periods of time solely to have Roxas worry over her
1 extended count of being unable to fight and requiring Roxas to do all her fighting for her, until fixed by the ~magical power of friendship~
3 counts of defeating massive bosses/other organisation members in one hit
At least 3 counts of causing conflict between Roxas and Axel
3 counts of running away/going missing and needing to be dragged back by Roxas/Axel
Many Many Many counts of angsting in her room and not talking to anyone for extended periods
1 count of a dramatic, tragic and unnecessarily sparkly death scene in Roxas's arms.
rallamajoop on LJ said:You see, one thing that did strike us during the very first rounds of Xion-bitching is that complaining about her Sue-ish tendencies was maybe a bit disingenuous considering that I've been affectionately referring to Sora as the Intergalactic Mary Sue From Hell for ages. I mean, think about it – the guy spends most of his time flying from one barely-reinvented Disney world to the next, making friends and helping save the day. That's pretty much textbook Sue activity, and yet I like Sora. A lot. So what makes the difference?
It's a lot of factors, but the main one (for us at least) is that Sora manages to be endearing despite his Sue-ish tendencies, rather than being defined by them alone. It's not hard to see what Squeenix and Disney were trying to do with the KH series – Sora is very much born from the childhood fantasy we all had at some point of getting to travel to the worlds of all those Disney movies (or whatever else our favourite story might have been as a kid) and make friends with our favourite characters. But for me personally, and an impressively large number of other KH fans who've variously outgrown Disney or otherwise become disillusioned the company over the years, this is not a selling point. In fact, quite a bit of disgust at the idea of playing 'a Disney game' kept us from getting into the series at all for years. Sora does also get to cosy up to a lot of Final Fantasy characters, which is a whole lot more up our fanservice alley, but what played the biggest part in getting us to finally give the game a chance was the realisation that the KH series had some likeable new characters, and a really good story. Not to mention gorgeous graphics and enjoyable gameplay, but characters and plot will always be my one big weakness.
[...] He's in many ways the stereotype of the dumb, well-intentioned hero – chosen by destiny for the usually arbitrary 'strength of the heart'-type characteristics. But his stupidity rarely hits the point of being offensive – by KHII, he's being allowed to give good advice and make good calls (see, for example, his efforts to get Hercules out of his emo-phase, or his justified reluctance not to trust the parrot). Sora's been dealt a rough hand – torn from his home, separated from his friends, dumped with the weight of the universe on his shoulders – and just when he thought it was over and he could go home, sent straight back into the fray for another round. And yet he never complains about the unfairness of his lot, and rarely takes more than a few glum moments here or there to angst about it. No matter how many worlds he visits or how many friends he makes, he never loses his sense of wonder, never makes you doubt he genuinely cares about each of them, but never long loses sight of his own goal of finding those two really important friends he grew up with again. Sora, in short, is a good person, but without becoming so perfect he becomes unbelievable. A few Sue-ish traits can't even make a dent in that.
Xion, alas, is not nearly so inoffensive.
Whereas Sora may have been born from childish fantasies of meeting fictional characters and having fun, Xion is the kind of Sue people start writing when the crushing angst of puberty is upon them. She exists not to meet wonderful people, help them out and have fun, but to be told by all the good guys what a wonderful special little snowflake she is, and victimised by everyone else to make the us feel sorry for her. The story is no longer about how wonderful all the worlds she's experiences are, it's about how wonderful she is. This is narcissism of a far less innocent kind. To add insult to injury, unlike Sora, innocently Sue-ing himself into a bunch of old AU Disney movies, Xion is Sue-ing herself into a series I genuinely enjoy – and that usually has far better writing than that.
There are two more characters from the KH series who sometimes get accused of Sue-ism: Roxas and Namine, and the accusations aren't entirely unfounded. Both are, pretty much by definition, pale shadows of established characters (Sora and Kairi respectively), introduced to the series well after most of the main cast with a heavy side order of angst about how neither were 'meant' to exist at all. For which matter, the entire plotline revolving around the Nobodies of CoM and KHII was not so much as foreshadowed in the first game, and when I initially heard about this (surprisingly humanoid and frequently prettyboy) new group of enemies I was initially a little skeptical that, with so much left unresolved from KHI, the producers might be adding one plot element too many. On this point I can only say I was proven happily wrong. Roxas and Namine manage to just squeeze in under the same category.
Out of the two of them, accusations of Sue-ishness probably suit Namine best, who not only has to be rescued princess-style from the badguys and is heavily implied to have at least a bit of a thing for Sora, she quite literally rewrites Sora's history to accommodate herself as a long-forgotten childhood friend. What redeems her is that Namine is that she's really no more than an innocent pawn, being used by the real badguys to manipulate Sora, and the inherrent falseness of everything she's doing to him is pretty much the entire point of it. She's ultimately not so much a real Sue as a cautionary tale to show what's wrong with Sues, and, like Sora, she's endearing enough that I love her anyway. (And I have to say, when you see that page from the otherwise crack-tastic CoM manga of all four of them on the beach together – Sora, Riku, Kairi and Namine – you know it's a lie but it's still so cute that goddamn, you want it to be true.)
When it comes to Roxas, who takes over from Sora as main character in the early part of the game, it's worthwhile keeping in mind that not everyone playing KHII will have played KHI, so there's real practical value to starting the player off with a character who's as unfamiliar with The Story So Far as many of the players will be. Roxas also ties into events from the previous games (Sora's transformation into a Heartless and memory loss) enough to have some point in proceedings. More importantly, he never comes close to taking over the plot – after the introductory sequence, he's seen again only barely long enough to give his story some needed resolution.
The real shame of Days might be that after such a long history of giving us characters with a few Sue-ish traits but enough redeeming features to make them likeable, they've gone and gotten it so very wrong in the latest instalment. There is nothing to Xion the series hasn't done before. She's a Nobody (Roxas, Namine) Organisation member (Roxas, etc), created by a slightly more unusual method than normal (Namine) by some kind of cloning process (the Riku Replica), connected to Sora (Roxas) and Kairi (Namine), connected to Sora's memory loss (Roxas, Kairi, Namine) and ulimately screwed into non-existence by a combination of Organisation disinterest and Sora's return (Roxas). In short, she's a female Roxas, with a couple of other overused character traits thrown in for flavour. Oh yeah, and a whole lot more angst.
'Cause lord knows what Org 13 always needed was more angst amiright?
I have had this argument before, and it boiled down to: I hate the reasons she was included (self-insertion opportunity), which means all the cues that are supposed to make me like her only annoy me.