Wouldnt it be awesome if Roxas and Ven meet? like if sora actually saved both of them and they end up meeting. Or if Ven fights Sora. idk im just shootin stuff out there
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As of now we don't know what saving Roxas means in detail
We know the gist.
Memories of Xion and his Summer Vacation.
Which then leads to Roxas becoming his own self, and Data TT and Data inside Sora [lightbulb turns on], blah blah blah...
Also, if Data TT was in Sora, both Roxas and Xion could inhabit it and be their own selves, all the while never taking anything away from Sora.
This is actually a core question, or rather, the core question is how is a new heart formed. We know for sure from KH: CoM that memories are a crucial part of a heart. Memories seem to be exceptionally powerful in the KH Universe as it was said also that Memories are practically "immortal" as they can be lost or forgotten but never truly fade.Xion and roxas yes they were created from borrowed memories (xion) and a borrowed body and heart (sroa and ven) yes they have thier own memories to define them. but do memories create hearts? is their existence truly based on their memories? and for tht matter like a nobody do they truly exist if only they have their memories to define them. idk if memories can create a brand new heart. we'll see what nomura is up to.
But the Data TT isn't inside Sora, the Data TT is in a computer that was connected to Sora's sleeping pod.
For Roxas and Xion to become their own independent existences only their own memories (whose also hold their appearances) would be needed to put into a new heart.
They already gave back everything they "borrowed" from Sora, but their own memories, which define them as "independent" from Sora in terms of thoughts and mind are also within Sora because they have no container where they can be stored.
Could you detail which report that was? I only know that DiZ was regretful towards Riku in the Secret Ansem Report 13, and that he realized only later that Roxas was his own person, as well as Naminé when he was travelling to the world that never was.luap911 said:The day before Roxas merged with Sora completely, DiZ wrote another report. In it, he expresses (some) sorrow toward Roxas and Namine. Maybe he put a copy of the data TT inside Sora at that time, using that to try and make up what he did to Roxas.
Crystal said:Possible. But it will sound like a twins xD
I think after both of them being save, they will having their own memories.
I don't know whether Roxas still having the ability in wielding the keyblade or not.
Maxyli138 said:In the end both Ven and Roxas will have to be saved, but the whole Ven/Sora/Roxas part where someone has someone's heart and someone has someone's keyblade is sort of complicated and I still have trouble wrapping my head around it. Having Roxas, Xion, and Namine return at all is a problem in itself. I wonder how Nomura will have them come back. Would they find some way to get their own hearts and bodies? All that's really left of them is their memories. Bringing Xion back sounds especially complicated since no one remembers her, and her memory must be deep inside Sora.
And having Roxas and Ven meeting and working together with all the other protaganists in future games might be a problem. Even if they have different clothes and keyblades, the player could still get confused.
In essence, they are a form of twins, just not blood-related. If one want's to be nitpicky, we could even say they form a triplet with Sora.
Of course then they will have their own memories for themselves, that's actually a prerequisite, not a result.
Roxas having still a keyblade depends. Nomura once said that one requirement for wielding a keyblade is to have a memory of holding one, which Roxas clearly does, as seen in KH 2 when he challenges Sora, he has both his oathkeeper and oblivion keyblades formed from his memories.
So, when Roxas really gains/creates an own heart where his memories can be stored in it depends if that new heart is qualified to be choosen by a keyblade. The odds for this are obviously there as Roxas already has the memories of wielding
I think it would be a lot more poignant if Ven obtained Roxas' memories, rather than the two having separate existences.
With the probable return of Lea, we'll also have someone with Axel's memories.
Then it would come full circle. Ven and Lea would be friends, like they had been years back, but Axel and Roxas' friendship would live on through them as well.
Sorry, but the idea of Ven and Roxas having their own separate existences at the same time seems ludicrous to me.