i don't have alot to say except since eraqus alive inside terranort heart could it be eraqus one of them?
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death's in KH? draxem no one dies in KH except disney villains so eraqus not deadThere's nothing at all to suggest he is going to be one of the darkness's. In my opinion, Eraqus is a character that really should stay dead, his role has been passed onto Aqua now.
death's in KH? draxem no one dies in KH except disney villains so eraqus not dead
if you play again you can see they die don't know how to spell them right but anyway 1 oogie boogy 2 frollo 3 ursule i think she won't come back after that attack in KH2 we might see her sister instead 4 scar 5 jafar since his lamp was destroyed in KH2Well, in the games. Disney villains don't die...for now.
death's in KH? draxem no one dies in KH except disney villains so eraqus not dead
People do die it's just a confusing matter. The body of a person dies as confirmed by Ansem the Wise in KH2's secret ansem reports. It's the heart that's enternal.
Mufasa died, everyone in Hades underworld is dead, Oogie has died twice, that burning village is shows when you first get to Mulans world is a scene from the movie in which everyone that lived there is dead, etc. Death was Xehanort's leading fear in stealing a body.
Though Eraqus really is a grey area right now. It's no doubt Xehanort literally, I mean literally here, stabbed Eraqus in the back so it's likely his body is truly toast but his heart is clinging to Terra so it's like he's dead but not truly passed on yet.
It'd help drive home death is real though if Nomura would quit bringing people back. -_-
KH 1 said:Fairy Godmother: Oh, the poor thing! He has turned into a summon gem.
Sora: A summon gem?
Fairy Godmother: This little creature lived in a world that was consumed
by darkness. When a world vanishes, so do its inhabitants. But this one
had such a strong heart, he became a gem instead of vanishing with his
world.
Sora: Can he regain himself?
Fairy Godmother: Yes, but only his spirit. Now, watch! Bibbity Bobbity
boo!
The Fairy Godmother cast a spell on the summon gem. Sora learned the
summon spell Simba.
Fairy Godmother: Whenever you call, he will help you. If you find any
more of these, bring them to me. Don't worry, when their worlds are
restored they will return there. Sora, please help save them.
Death to some extent or form must be definite else Xehanort wouldn't fear it so. Most of the things he's done over the entire series has been a desperate attempt to avoid its outcome while achieving his dillusioned goals.That depends on what you define as "real" though, as death exists obviously but not as a definite end
Death to some extent or form must be definite else Xehanort wouldn't fear it so. Most of the things he's done over the entire series has been a desperate attempt to avoid its outcome while achieving his dillusioned goals.
Even if hearts are eternal but sleeping where they go must be a place from which it's hard to return from without some sort of serious or godly magic to intervene.
Where the hearts ends up is also important. Roxas, Xion, Namine and Eraqus aren't gone but clinging to others. Hades underworld is a mass gathering of dead he can call and Maleficent was sent to the dark realm and returned but I doubt everyone goes to the same place. (Though I'm sure KH is the final destination of everyone eventually)
The vanished beings your quoting from KH1 also aren't dead, never were, but fallen into darkness which wasn't death by kh standards as the body didn't die.
Death in this series isn't being split (heartless/nobodies), falling with a world (kh1/dream realm), or other such things it's when the body dies by loss of its soul either through time or malicious ends.
Yen Sid said:And perhaps you may even succeed, Mickey. But there is no denying Riku stands the better chance, having dived into Sora's heart as long as he has.
Maybe people (us included) are also simply overanalyzing too much instead of simply accepting all this as a part of a fairy tale/fantasy world.
That's a semantic. Leaving from the physical plane and dieing in this case are the same thing. When the body dies you leave the physical plane. Your existence as a "living" person, or rather a physical person, no longer exists.What Xehanort fears isn't a definite end but the prospect of having to leave the physical plane for an extended period of time (and thus missing stuff that could further satiate his immense curiosity). In his reports it is shown that Xehanort already knows about the eternal aspects of a heart and the possibility to transfer it to prolong his stay in the physical plane.
Thus Xehanort's fear isn't so much of an definite end, but of a loss of control that would come about if he allowed a natural death.
Xehanort's Report 8
My brother pupil Eraqus thinks only in absolutes. He has persuaded himself that light is the only way, but forgets that light cannot exist without shadow. I believe a balance of light and darkness is what sustains our World, but too much of the darkness has been stamped out, disrupting that balance. Someone must tear down this tyranny of light and reorganize the World around the darkness which then creeps back in.
Eraqus and I did not see eye to eye. I left, and wandered the World. This was perhaps the first time I felt truly free since that day I departed my boyhood home. But free to do what? I had already shown the Mark and become a Keyblade Master - but having been passed over as a Successor, all that remained to me was the road of teacher.
Ordinarily, Keyblade Masters take pupils under their wings, malleable minds in which to impress the precepts of the Keyblade wielder and keep our profession alive for generations to come. Was my time drawing to an end, then, after all I had accomplished since casting away the place of my birth? Surely waiting for a quiet death would not do, not when there was still so much I needed to see for myself. Powers help me, I thought, my body is so old...
Xehanort's Report 9
We Keyblade Masters have a special gift. We can extract a heart, be it our own or that of another. By continuing this cycle, it is possible to remain in the world of the living forever.
This is exactly why "death" has to be a definite end or at least definite enough for Xehanor to fear this outcome/fate and try his damnedest to avoid it.The way Yen Sid words it, having the power to awaken a heart in itself apparently isn't a guaranteed success, as there seems to be concern that awakening Sora's heart could also fail for a number of reasons.
So even if you find the sleeping heart and have necessary power to awaken it, it may not always work.
Hearts being located inside KH itself would be unreachable by definition though as so far no one managed to "open the door" to the true KH anyways.
I really wish that they never started the reincarnation of characters. Becoming a nobody/heartless should have been the end of the regeneration cycle. That's just me though.
That is really all that was needed to be said hahaha
That's a semantic. Leaving from the physical plane and dieing in this case are the same thing. When the body dies you leave the physical plane. Your existence as a "living" person, or rather a physical person, no longer exists.
So yes Xehanort is indeed afraid of death and even refers to it as a death:
This is exactly why "death" has to be a definite end or at least definite enough for Xehanor to fear this outcome/fate and try his damnedest to avoid it.
Even the ones being saved now are only exceptions to the normal bindings of nature as none of them is truly dead.
Roxas never had a body of his own but merely gave Sora's back. Even if he has a heart of his own, until he returns, he is a part of Sora.
Namine is to much of a mystery to even entertain.
And Xion was also part of Sora to an extent.
These three have vanished but never truly died as they weren't truly people. Individuals definitely. But still apart of someone else which has kept them in a place they can be recovered from.
That's of course a totally subjective issue, but I personally have much more emotion for the current predicaments all those characters are in which can be counted as fates worse than death.Does it not sap all of the emotion out of the "deaths"of all these characters though? I really believe that it does.
I do not see Eraqus being a seeker of darkness, nor would I think he would submit to Xehanort.
The epilogue conversion between Terra and Xehanort says otherwise. Not to mention, Terra had to feed into the darkness before being possessed by Xehanort.
That's true.
Does it not sap all of the emotion out of the "deaths"of all these characters though? I really believe that it does.