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but yeah, Ava is Darkness all along would make sense, don't in one interview Nomura was like "yall think Ava is sort of pure, cinnamon roll? naaa she's not that pure" cmiiw
(SPOILERS) Union X: Breath of Darkness
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Well, it's pretty clear Ven isn't the killer. He was definitely present, saw the whole thing happen, and couldn't control himself. But whoever Darkness is killed Strelitzia in one killing blow. Chirithy too.
No wonder Ven's memories were erased in the future. Whoever did the erasing was very kind to make sure he didn't remember he was an accessory to a murder. I have a feeling things are about to get really bad for our new group of foretellers.
Who "Darkness" is, I don't know. I don't think it's Ava. And I think it hitched a ride on Ven into the future and eventually became a part of Vanitas. But whatever Darkness is is still sticking around inside his body since Sora encountered it.
For what purpose....
No wonder Ven's memories were erased in the future. Whoever did the erasing was very kind to make sure he didn't remember he was an accessory to a murder. I have a feeling things are about to get really bad for our new group of foretellers.
Who "Darkness" is, I don't know. I don't think it's Ava. And I think it hitched a ride on Ven into the future and eventually became a part of Vanitas. But whatever Darkness is is still sticking around inside his body since Sora encountered it.
For what purpose....
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Well, this was a completely plausible and I would say even natural theory back then. Lauriam simply doesn't belong. He is a proud person, while the others are very humble (and the box has the text χsuper, which literally means "lack/end of pride"). He has been behaving in a suspicious and somewhat out-of-character way since we first met him: arriving late, refusing to participate, and finding ways to circumvent the rules in the rulebook. In fact, he still doesn't work as a part of the union leader team. He is also the only one of them without a meaningful name. Most people here have forgotten all this since it became clear that he has nothing to do with the murder, but it still needs to be explained.
Skuld is too young to be Ava. The only way this could be possible is if she time travels back to UX time from the modern timeline (which means abandoning Ephemer) and then becomes MoM's disciple there without MoM recognizing who she actually is. Not completely impossible, but sounds unlikely.
In the modern timeline, probably two or three games from now. I do believe it will happen, because of how they are building up Lauriam as the next hero of the series.
.I dunno, after all ava and gula are the youngest member and we never see her face anyway
But I also doubt it though
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I don't think Darkness is Ava. Remember, Ventus in the future is possessed by Darkness, and that creates Vanitas. I also doubt that the MoM would miss one of his students literally being Darkness. We also do know how Darkness could have learned who the Dandelion Leaders were, the Dark Chirithies. In the movie Ira finds one sneaking around and if there is only one, that means it must have snuck out because the Player fights it later. If there are more than one that means that many of them could have been sneaking around even after Ira catches them, and there is no confirmation that they don't work directly or indirectly for Darkness.
I think ava is darkness wont contradict vanitas is inside ven if ava discards her body and loses her memory in the process
But it is quite strange that Blaine convinced it was not Ava on previous updates if it is Ava
I think Darkness is not a "who", but an "it". An ethereal being. Darkness is not any of the existing characters we know so far.
In ReMind, when the Master of Master speaks to a younger Xehanort, he reveals his name but we don't know what it is. What we do know is that there's a bright glimmer of light when he pronounces his name. So I believe the Master of Masters is an ethereal being of light.
So ultimately, I believe the Master of Masters was trying to get rid of Darkness, he just did so in a morally antagonistic way.
In ReMind, when the Master of Master speaks to a younger Xehanort, he reveals his name but we don't know what it is. What we do know is that there's a bright glimmer of light when he pronounces his name. So I believe the Master of Masters is an ethereal being of light.
So ultimately, I believe the Master of Masters was trying to get rid of Darkness, he just did so in a morally antagonistic way.
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it's Laurel + Memoriam. Laurels are plants commonly used to make leaf crowns in the days of ancient greek and rome, and in KH3 he appears in Kingdom of Corona. Corona is Latin for crown. And memoriam, "in memory of", that even if the world forgets Strelitzia, he will be last one to give her a memorial, besides, from what we've seen from Lauriam so far, it seems that he's live and die solely for Strelitzia.
Imagine telling someone who just finished COM one day Marluxia will be painted as a hero.
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Wow, this update almost had the MoM's entire motivation laid out. Assuming he is telling the truth, his true goal is to destroy the darkness once and for all, or at least the most destructive force of it, but it will take lifetimes and much preparation. Probably needs exceptional guardians of light from multiple worldlines drawn out to fight it.
This also explains Luxu and how he can be so loyal to the extent that he simply watched his comrades kill each other and end the world and then body hop for centuries. He knows the true end goal is to defeat the darkness.
If this is the case, this is a pretty significant update. MoM and Luxu/Xigbar may become allies/mentors to Sora and Yozora to fight the true source of darkness. I would actually love that. Especially for Xigbar, would be such a great dynamic and growth for his character.
This also explains Luxu and how he can be so loyal to the extent that he simply watched his comrades kill each other and end the world and then body hop for centuries. He knows the true end goal is to defeat the darkness.
If this is the case, this is a pretty significant update. MoM and Luxu/Xigbar may become allies/mentors to Sora and Yozora to fight the true source of darkness. I would actually love that. Especially for Xigbar, would be such a great dynamic and growth for his character.
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The big problem with this is that it redefines the concept of darkness in the whole series. For example, it throws Riku's whole story under a bus: What is the point of understanding your weaknesses and learning to control your own darkness if you end up being possessed by such beings anyway?
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Kudos to the animator(s?). His body language is always awesome.
Well we know one thing.
Ven is basically innocent since he didn't do it willingly.
That means he isn't the one who opened the Chamber of Secrets.
Ven is basically innocent since he didn't do it willingly.
That means he isn't the one who opened the Chamber of Secrets.
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I'll spoiler this if you didn't watch the videos or translations.
Maleficent to Darkness: "You have have no flesh, surely you could easily travel through time" it seems darkness is in fact ethereal. It doesn't seem to contradict nor refute her.
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The same would be true if he is one of the union leaders time traveling from the (near) future. Time travel happens as a heart.
But it does rule out some other possibilities for his identity. Thank you for pointing it out!
Idk, I'd compare him more to Arecia Al-Rashia or Enna Kros. They lay out the pieces of the puzzle and observe while the children actually try (and fail over and over and over) to save the world.
Bahamut was pretty hands off until Noct entered the crystal.
Which is what I've been saying since Back Cover.
(damn I can't find my first post but I found my post from 2019 at least lol)
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It doesn't really redefine concept of darkness. None of the characters in the current timeline understood what Darkness was - KH2 made it clear that they have essentially baseless fears of dark beings, akin to racism, and that they refuse to understand darkness as a concept. This still goes hand in hand with learning to control PERSONAL darkness, which is understood to be weakness associated with feelings of hatred, rage, and other such things.
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That is a rather...generous reading of the MoM.
I don't think this changes anything if anything it just confirms a theory I've had ever since we heard some of his backstory. He's remnant of a different time, a time before darkness because he fought in the war that started all this. But rather than accept that the war is over, that no side actually won, that times have changed... the MoM won't move on. He won't be satisfied until Darkness is eradicated and he is willing to go to abhorrent lengths to achieve victory. He's willing to destroy the world, kill thousands, manipulate his students, and create repeat battles all to achieve this. How is this any different from Eraqus who tried to kill Ventus and Terra to stop the X-blade from being forged, or MX who wanted to reset the world anew to create a balanced world where light isn't swallowed by the dark?
The MoM is wrong, darkness doesn't need to be eradicated he needs to get over it. He lived in the time when obsession with light was so strong it spawned darkness and started a war. He lived in a time where he taught his students light is the best and put the fear of darkness into them so that they and their child filled unions would destroy...pretty much everything out of fear of the dark. Eraqus created Terra's self loathing, Aqua's imbalance, and Ven's sense of powerless and imprisonment out of fear of the dark. It just keeps going a never ending cycle of these people who preach light as superior and then are consumed by a frankly irrational fear/hate of the darkness that if you take a moment to step back....doesn't really make sense.
MoM is openly the villain here, if he had put half as much effort into accepting the world changed and helping it find new balance we be in a very different place. If the world does need a leader to stand up and guide it, it's sure as hell not the MoM. It's someone like Sora who preaches unity and acceptance or Riku who created a coexistence of light and dark where the best traits of both have been shown. The MoM needs to be taught by them not the other way around.
As for the being known as Darkness it remains to be seen what their goal is. Maybe they are like the MoM unable to accept the results of the war and are intent on getting victory. Or maybe just maybe they are doing what they do out of self preservation, trying to stop their existence from being erased and I can't see that as evil, if something is alive it has an inherent right to life even if you don't like it. We don't know enough yet...and I'm still not 100% certain that what we saw was it shape shifting into Ava and instead just a reveal that it was Ava, because Darkness still has a lot of knowledge that very few people should know. The book of prophecies and its contents, the identity of the dandelion leaders and their rule book marking them, the arc which it knew not only the location of but it's actual history of what it was intended to be. Not to mention Ava's "mission" and the fact she is absent from the Foreteller reunion.
If so then I would absolutely see Darkness as the good guy here or at least a third party, working against the MoM after Luxu told her the truth. Realizing that the MoM is an absolute psychopath and needs to be stopped.